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Old 12-09-2010, 16:16   #1
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Boycotting antigun employers...

The carrying while at work thread got me thinking about anti-gun companies that forbid their employees from carrying at work. Why dot we list our employers and then we can all boycott them and let them know that until their employees have the ability to carry a firearm at work they will not see a dime of our money.

I work for Panduit Corporation doing sales. I am forbidden to carry while at work and when on sale trips using the company vehicle.

Where do you work?

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Old 12-09-2010, 16:35   #2
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If we boycott your employer and you are in sales...will that not hurt you?
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Old 12-09-2010, 16:46   #4
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If we boycott your employer and you are in sales...will that not hurt you?
I am willing to take the hit to my pay for this cause. And it will not hurt me that much but even of it did I willing to live with it. I will not be in direct sales much longer as I plan to transfer to an operational position.
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I going out on a limb and guessing they are pro-gun.

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Old 12-09-2010, 17:10   #6
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Boycotting employers seems to be self defeating. At least in a recession.
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Old 12-09-2010, 18:30   #7
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I am willing to take the hit to my pay for this cause. And it will not hurt me that much but even of it did I willing to live with it. I will not be in direct sales much longer as I plan to transfer to an operational position.
So you are listing your employer here, asking us to boycott them, and you are going to transfer to another part of the company that won't be hit so hard by a boycott?

Why not just quit the company if you don't like their rules?

I remember those other threads and while I don't agree 100% with the pro-employer side, this thread doesn't represent the so-called "anti-employer" side because your request is laughable. You are mistaken if you don't think a boycott to your company is going to "hurt you that much". What kind of person would ask the general public to boycott the company they work for? Did you show your employer this thread?
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So you are listing your employer here, asking us to boycott them, and you are going to transfer to another part of the company that won't be hit so hard by a boycott?

Why not just quit the company if you don't like their rules?

I remember those other threads and while I don't agree 100% with the pro-employer side, this thread doesn't represent the so-called "anti-employer" side because your request is laughable. You are mistaken if you don't think a boycott to your company is going to "hurt you that much". What kind of person would ask the general public to boycott the company they work for? Did you show your employer this thread?
Almost seems more honorable to just sneak around with the concealed gun anyway...

Encouraging folks to boycott your company is probably a fireable offense just as much as getting caught with a gun against company policy....

Although, it would be much easier to find the new job without the "guy with a gun" moniker.

Buddy of mine got caught with one, fired. Talked to him later, seems the "well had been poisoned", he had to move out of state to find work. Seems somehow word got out to potential employers....
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Where do you work?
I'm retired.

But prior to being retired, I worked in government service. In one of those buildings with a sign on the front door advising that weapons are not allowed. One of those places that an infraction of that rule could land you in a Federal prison.

So you expect us to boycott all government/quasi-governmental agencies--local through Federal level? Good luck on mailing a letter, flying out of an airport, vacationing in a National Park, hunting in a National Forest, etc.

Oh, yeah. Also good luck on filing for your unemployment compensation benefits.
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I work for Pandut Corporation doing sales. I am forbidden to carry while at work and when on sale trips using the company vehicle.
If you feel so strongly, why are you there? Tell them your objections and leave.
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I avoid gas stations that sell fuel from Shell & Phillips66. Remember their searching employees' cars on public parking areas, and firing the ones with firearms in their cars?

Any business with no firearms posted on the door do not get any business from me.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:12   #12
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You have to realize that companies that allow guns in the work place have to have a much higher hazard insurance policy. Lots of companies have the "no weapon" policy simply to save money.
And OP, you need to delete this thread as employers are doing much more internet research on prospective and current employees. If they find this, you will be fired on the spot.
Just my $.02

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You have to realize that companies that allow guns in the work place have to have a much higher hazard insurance policy. Lots of companies have the "no weapon" policy simply to save money.
And OP, you need to delete this thread as employers are doing much more internet research on prospective and current employees. If they find this, you will be fired on the spot.
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I presume you mean "Panduit" Corporation? I don't think any boycott initiated here would have much of an effect on their sales.

Carrying at work isn't even a possibility for me - I work in MD.
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You have to realize that companies that allow guns in the work place have to have a much higher hazard insurance policy. Lots of companies have the "no weapon" policy simply to save money.
And OP, you need to delete this thread as employers are doing much more internet research on prospective and current employees. If they find this, you will be fired on the spot.
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May have even been posted from a company computer.
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I presume you mean "Panduit" Corporation? I don't think any boycott initiated here would have much of an effect on their sales.

Carrying at work isn't even a possibility for me - I work in MD.
Correct.
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So you are listing your employer here, asking us to boycott them, and you are going to transfer to another part of the company that won't be hit so hard by a boycott?

Why not just quit the company if you don't like their rules?

I remember those other threads and while I don't agree 100% with the pro-employer side, this thread doesn't represent the so-called "anti-employer" side because your request is laughable. You are mistaken if you don't think a boycott to your company is going to "hurt you that much". What kind of person would ask the general public to boycott the company they work for? Did you show your employer this thread?
The transfer is more of a promotion if you will. Irregardless the whole company would be hurting if people boycotted them. The same can be said of any company.
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If you feel so strongly, why are you there? Tell them your objections and leave.
I have no objections to them banning guns on company property. That is why I don't mind it. However there are many people on here who do object to it and continue against policy. Why don't they use this alternative means of fighting the system rather than just break company policy? This isn't the cowards way out and "just concealing it because I can get away with it". Nor is it the dishonorable way and breaking the agreement that you have with your employer.

I am not to worried about being able to carry at work. I don't carry at work because I respect the property owners rights to limit what comes on their property. I gave my word when I signed that work agreement and as an honorable man I keep it.
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You have to realize that companies that allow guns in the work place have to have a much higher hazard insurance policy. Lots of companies have the "no weapon" policy simply to save money.
And OP, you need to delete this thread as employers are doing much more internet research on prospective and current employees. If they find this, you will be fired on the spot.
Just my $.02
I have no problem if these current and prospective employers look me up as I have not done anything wrong.

So it is ok for them to ban employees from carrying because it will save them some cash on insurance? What about the lives of the employees? They could be killed if they don't have their sidearms with them?

If the company bans customers from carrying in their stores and posts signs, is that ok as well?
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I have no problem if these current and prospective employers look me up as I have not done anything wrong.

So it is ok for them to ban employees from carrying because it will save them some cash on insurance? What about the lives of the employees? They could be killed if they don't have their sidearms with them?

If the company bans customers from carrying in their stores and posts signs, is that ok as well?
1. Suggesting a boycott of the company that you work for will very likely get you reprimanded if not fired.

2. Lots of companies don't care about their employees at all(Hence the firing of employees that defended themselves). It is a money game, not a good boy/girl pat on the back, game.

3. Of course it is fine for companies to post signs. I don't think that ANY company should have the ability to restrict LAW-ABIDING customers from carrying at all, but I won't shop at a place that has a sign, even if it is meaningless. Luckily, I live in CO and a sign doesn't hold any value and I've never seen one.

Comparing employee rules and customer rules are two different issues.
As a customer, I will find a different company to spend my money.
Employee rules are, to you, a balance of your job or your life, and, to your employer, are more to let employers feel that they are saving money and more protected(Which is a complete lie) from issues with angry people that have been let go. Do I think it is OK? No, but it is all about the money.

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1. Suggesting a boycott of the company that you work for will very likely get you reprimanded if not fired.

2. Lots of companies don't care about their employees at all(Hence the firing of employees that defended themselves). It is a money game, not a good boy/girl pat on the back, game.

3. Of course it is fine for companies to post signs. I don't think that ANY company should have the ability to restrict LAW-ABIDING customers from carrying at all, but I won't shop at a place that has a sign, even if it is meaningless. Luckily, I live in CO and a sign doesn't hold any value and I've never seen one.

Comparing employee rules and customer rules are two different issues.
As a customer, I will find a different company to spend my money.
Employee rules are, to you, a balance of your job or your life, and, to your employer, are more to let employers feel that they are saving money and more protected(Which is a complete lie) from issues with angry people that have been let go. Do I think it is OK? No, but it is all about the money.
1) Most likely.

2) Well for us it is a safety game and a rights game. Those are more important then money. Gun owners are like the founding fathers and would gladly stand up for their rights even if meant loosing their employment, we are men and women of principle, right? So for us it is not about money but our safety and our rights as Americans to keep and bear arms, which are obviously more important then the rights of property owners to control their property. Am I right in stating the argument this way?

3) I disagree. A property owner should have the ability to decide what and who comes on their property at any given time. What does it matter if they are a customer or an employee, you are on their property right? If you own a store and I come on to your property with a shirt that has a picture that offends you, are you able to tell me to leave? What about my First Amendment rights? Are they more valid because I am buying a pack of gum from you?
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I work for a Government agency. How could you possibly boycot them? The concept is rediculously unrealistic.

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I work for a Government agency. How could you possibly boycot them? The concept is rediculously unrealistic.

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Well if it is the post office then we can stop using their services. As far as other agencies, the best thing we can do is just keep writing our Congress people and ask that they change the law to allow firearms at work. But I do think there is a huge and relevant difference between a private business and the government. This thread is more about the private businesses. For example, gun owners should probably boycott Walmart or other corporations that do not allow their employers the right to carry guns if they (gunowners) should be allowed to carry there.
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If my employer doesnít prosper, I canít prosper either. There could be no salary increases if there is no increase in profit. I donít carry at work because it is forbidden. I agreed to it by signing the code of conduct, they didnít force me, I accepted those conditions voluntarily.

In Florida you are allowed to carry in a bank, my son works in one and is not allowed to carry. Where I work employees are not allowed to carry but there are no such rules for visitors or other outsiders.

Youíll find that most employers here have a no weaponís policy for employees; youíll be hard pressed to find one that doesnít. Posted signs in Florida have no teeth anyway (if you are not an employee of that firm), worse case scenario would be being charged with trespassing once you have been asked to leave and don't.

If we were to boycott all businesses that donít allow employees to carry we would have to grow our own food, manufacture our own cosmetics and toiletries, the list would be endless. Itís neither practical nor realistic.

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You have to realize that companies that allow guns in the work place have to have a much higher hazard insurance policy. Lots of companies have the "no weapon" policy simply to save money.
That's the excuse given. The real reason is that the people who think up their company policies are usually fresh out of the anti gun indoctrination machine universities and/or they get their advice from a company that writes corporate policy manuals which has an anti gun agenda.
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