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Old 01-24-2011, 08:43   #26
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The Fusion Longslide sounds awesome! I'm jealous!

I've been watching Gunbroker for Razorbacks...but, no gun money at the moment. Plus I need a 5" steel .45acp.

Darn 1911's

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Old 01-24-2011, 12:05   #27
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The Fusion Longslide sounds awesome! I'm jealous!

I've been watching Gunbroker for Razorbacks...but, no gun money at the moment. Plus I need a 5" steel .45acp.

Darn 1911's
Hell, I'm even jealous of MYSELF! LOL...

As for the RZ... if you have a Cabela's around your house, go there. They've had CZ/DW Sportsman's on the shelves for months now. (Same as the RZ only has a FO front sight, SUPER nice).

Worth a look, at least. You might also be able to order off of their website. Not sure.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:11   #28
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It may be awhile before I "find" the cash...I just hope Dan keeps building them.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:59   #29
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It may be awhile before I "find" the cash...I just hope Dan keeps building them.
I was in your situation with wanting a Razorback just a few years back... and it was like a large stone lifted off of my shoulders when I finally got mine. I love my Razorback. Keep your eyes on the prize, you will get one eventually. I would be REALLY surprised if they stopped making the RZ or PM (which are pretty much the same pistol aside from some minor changes).
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:08   #30
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Just finished a 50rd batch of what will be my small game 10mm load. 9.3gr AA7 under 175gr SWC @1055fps. Nice, light, hopefully accurate, cheap load.
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Old 02-06-2011, 16:40   #31
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Just finished a 50rd batch of what will be my small game 10mm load. 9.3gr AA7 under 175gr SWC @1055fps. Nice, light, hopefully accurate, cheap load.
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Old 02-06-2011, 17:12   #32
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Hey Nick

Sounds like a good load. I used 9.0 grains of AA7 under a 185 Colorado Cast bullet, it worked out well.

Cartwheeled a running Cottontail with it, I was surprised on the clean kill with no meat damage...plus I was really amazed that I hit it!
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Hey Nick

Sounds like a good load. I used 9.0 grains of AA7 under a 185 Colorado Cast bullet, it worked out well.

Cartwheeled a running Cottontail with it, I was surprised on the clean kill with no meat damage...plus I was really amazed that I hit it!
I actually thought of this load as a way to hunt the smaller critters with my 10mm reloads. The idea is to have an economical, low velocity bullet with a nice, flat (but smallish) meplat to give the cookie-cutter effect on small game with head or body shots...that won't damage a lot of meat. The idea was to use lightweight lead bullet for this task but since my local reloader's shop only had these heavier Suter's Choice 175gr LSWC's in stock (for $8/100!) I got them instead of a lighter round. I suppose a normal FMJ would work but jacketed bullets are a bit more expensive and the SWC load seems like it would have a bit more 'bite' for shots that might "nick" small game. I'll probably think up a good round for foxes and coyotes (garden and chicken protection) and will eventually work up really hot whitetail loads... and probably eventually a monster hog load.

Ahh the joys of reloading



GOOD JOB ON THAT RABBIT!
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:51   #34
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Just loaded up 50 more of my small game load which only took 20 minutes. I'm real comfortable with my setup now and honestly feel that I'll never buy factory ammo again except for maybe CCW.

Loving it!!!
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Old 02-08-2011, 13:10   #35
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Ain't that the truth!

I've read quite a few of the arguments for and against using handloads for S.D. and I can appreciate both sides of it.

But at $1.00 to $1.50 per round???

I may be able to afford carrying it but I can't afford to practice with it or cycle it through my CCW guns, I do unload them from time to time and some "chew up" the unfired ammo more then others, not to mention the potential of setback is increased so this cycled ammo get's put into the "practice box"

I know it's controversial but as soon as I go through my current inventory of factory Gold Dot's I'll probably settle on a hand load.
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I totally agree about the exhorbitant cost, however, I've got a controversial idea, too: I don't really need a lot of practice defense ammo. I know it's important for your defense ammo to work 100% but my carry guns aren't chosen for being picky with ammo so I shoot 10-30 rounds and if they function fine I go with the load. I can always handload some ballistically equivalent load to practice with. No sense in wasting ammo or money on testing ammo that obviously works.

As for using a handload for CCW, I may do the same someday, who knows.
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Jitterbug,

Couple more things.

First, just FYI, that 10.9gr AA7 - 180gr XTP load is nice and warm. It has a hefty kick but allowed me several sub-1" groups at 25 yards and a 2.5" group at 50 yards

Secondly, according to Fusion, I should have my longslide around the first of March. WOOOHOOOOO!!!!
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Old 02-08-2011, 13:49   #38
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Great shooting and good news on the Fusion!

I've been trying to purchase AA7 locally for about a month now with no luck. So I've been playing around with AA5 and Titegroup. I miss AA7 for the 10mm so I put in an order with Graf and Midway last weekend.

I just took a peek at my Hornady 7th, that looks like a good load, the AA9 load might be interesting too, especially since I have a couple of pounds of that on hand and I've read some good reports of AA9 and 180-200 grain loads.

I have a box of a 100 of the 180 XTP's on hand and tried to purchase another over the weekend, both vendors are out of stock, I'm getting a wee bit nervous about the lack of good bullet availability.

Gold Dots--Good luck on finding them.
Golden Sabers -- Available, but little to no published load data
XTP's -- Have been available up until recently.

Same thing in 9mm, .45acp and good bullet selection for .223
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I would recommend trying some of that AA9 rather than the AA5 but that's just me. That AA9 is what I wanted to get instead of AA7... AA9 has REALLY good potential.

As for bullets, I can't find GD's either but XTP'S are everywhere I look locally.
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Old 02-08-2011, 14:27   #40
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I got the AA5 for the .45acp, I have a decent 230 XTP load worked up with that, good accuracy and it does a nice job in the water jug test, expanding out to .688"

At 25 yards it'll put 4 into one hole then I get a consistent 5th flyer...I'm averaging 5-5 shot groups and getting under 3" (including the flyer) which I consider good for a 4" .45acp and my old eyes.

It must be that first round chambered phenomena.

Soon, I'll be running that same test with the 180 XTP in 10mm, I want to get that going along about 1050 fps, from my 4.25" CBOB, I'll give both the AA9 and AA7 a shot.

I have to get a chrono one of these days.
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My wife's grandfather said he's having a problem with a coyote on his acreage. Since I'm traveling, I don't have a rifle and only have my Razorback Here with me so... LOOKS LIKE IM GONNA HUNT SOME VERMIN IN THE MORNING! good chance to test out my new handloads!!
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Well, no coyote but I did get to run some rounds through my RZ with my new 22lb recoil spring installed. Flawless.

Also, I just put my order in for a new chronograph. Can't WAIT to start testing handloads. 800x, I WILL get you!
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Those Coyotes can take a bit of work
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Great shooting and good news on the Fusion!

I've been trying to purchase AA7 locally for about a month now with no luck. So I've been playing around with AA5 and Titegroup. I miss AA7 for the 10mm so I put in an order with Graf and Midway last weekend.

I just took a peek at my Hornady 7th, that looks like a good load, the AA9 load might be interesting too, especially since I have a couple of pounds of that on hand and I've read some good reports of AA9 and 180-200 grain loads.

I have a box of a 100 of the 180 XTP's on hand and tried to purchase another over the weekend, both vendors are out of stock, I'm getting a wee bit nervous about the lack of good bullet availability.

Gold Dots--Good luck on finding them.
Golden Sabers -- Available, but little to no published load data
XTP's -- Have been available up until recently.

Same thing in 9mm, .45acp and good bullet selection for .223
Make sure you cross-reference the Hornady data with the Accurate data. There is a wide variation in max charges - especially with A9 and the 180s.
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Ain't that the truth!

And to make matters worse AA just released edition 3.5...(free download from AA) and load differences are significant, at least for a 9mm load I'm working on as I found out when I double checked for new info at the last moment yesterday.

I'm working on a 147 grain Missouri Bullet load for 9mm and have been driving myself nuts trying to determine OAL..and a start load.

AA 3.4 Edition has 6.5 grains of AA7 as a "start load" and the latest 3.5 Edition lists 6.3 as MAX! Granted the 3.4 Edition has a 145 grain RN bullet but still...

3.5 now lists 5.3 grains as a start load for a 147 grain bullet, whereas previously 3.4 has it at 6.5 grains!

Arrrrghhh!

I wound up loading 4 start loads.

2 @ 1.126"
2 @ 1.116"

using 5.3 and 5.5 grains at each length.

I use Hornady 4th and 7th, Lyman 49th, Accurate Arms, 3.4 and now 3.5 along with some older Speer and Sierra manuals not to mention what I find on the wonderweb.

More often than not there is a huge variation in start charges and OAL's.

I'm learning to go with the lowest charge weights and longest OAL's that pass the chamber test in my barrels. And unless the lowest start load appears to be an "typo" or there is some reasonable explanation, I'm going with that on my workups.

In the meantime I have a hundred or so 10mm's to take apart...due to variations in load data and case factors.

I have to many other reloading projects on the table to get to the 180 XTP and AA9, but will be sometime in the next month or two.

I'm shooting .38 special, 9mm, .45acp, 10mm and .223 and the more I reload the longer my "to do" list grows.

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my 10mm Fusion Longslide Hunter is finally finished!!! (pics)

My new Fusion custom longslide 10mm. I'm utterly amazed at the execution of my order. Thanks again to Bob Serva and the crew at Fusion Firearms!!!!

My perfect 10!

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I've got more pictures but these are my favorites...

Enjoy!
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Drool.....very nice Nick!
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Drool.....very nice Nick!
Thank you, sir!
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VEEY VERY nice Nick. You must be a proud poppy. I liked all of the photos, but I especially like the close up of the business end. It looks like very nice workmanship. Enjoy.

Now for that range report!
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BTW, here is a pic of the new reloading location (we moved). MUCH better than my last reloading location (pic earlier in this thread).

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