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Old 01-30-2011, 16:12   #51
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I spent over 20 years active and ANG Security Forces. There are good people there however as a whole Security Forces is misdirected. Other than the few good folks most are way past self confident into the arrogant catagory. I have worked for local LE and now the FEDS and most SF are not really ready to work civilian LE. It is a big adjustment. And Most way inflate their experence and stories!
I agree with the big adjustment because on a military installation you don't get nearly the experience in situations or training that a local LE would on a everyday basis. The arrogance and inflating of their experiences is also present and especially those who have back office most of their term.

I had a SMSgt that was the ops superintendent that never saw flight (flight is a term for unit/team/element/ like Alpha flight or day, swings, mids shifts) after his SrA promotion but he acted like he knew more than a reservist SF who was a civilian Lead Detective that was a lower USAF rank but had 10 years of local detective and 5 years of regular patrol experience in a medium sized city. The SMSgt also said that the detectives' police skills needed to be more like his. What a joke.

SF in general will give you some prep not all for civilian academies as my old unit has had several people go through the SF academy then later get hired on to a local LE. And if I didn't decide to change career paths I'd be a local LE. Sometimes SF gets a bad rap and its warranted and sometimes its not. Like all jobs taking the good with the bad.

Being in HR now, I hear all kinds of things about former military jobs that don't quite transition over. Like a USAF dental tech that couldn't get a job cleaning teeth at a local dentist office unless they got their civilian certification despite having 8 years of cleaning experience. Say what you will about military medical and understanding state requirements but they didn't even offer any form internship or apprentice or anything aside from get the cert and "maybe" we'll consider you. I remember a refueler/ARS who the airlines wouldn't hire for that same position but got a TSA job with the airport. How does a well qualified and experienced Air Refueling Squadron TSgt only get a TSA job and all this was before the economy crashed.
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Old 01-30-2011, 20:03   #52
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I would not go the SF route, but you do what you want to do. Every E-4 and below and some E-5's all tell me that want to reclass and finish thier 20 years elsewhere.... A lot will depend on your squadron, but i would say find another job.
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Old 01-30-2011, 21:19   #53
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The other thing on the Security Forces side is weekends off are few and far between. And when the whole base has a down day for a base family day/cookout or hoiliday off. . You are stuck working a gateshack standing in the rain, snow etc etc etc. And don't count on getting relieved for a sit down if you are lucky you will get an ice cold styrofoam box with leftovers hours after it's over. If you are on a nuclear base you will be stuck working more when some gump(it's the same 10-20% of the people and they keep them around for some reason) goes off PRP and can't post.

As the saying goes work smarter not harder.

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Old 02-02-2011, 21:19   #54
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Congrats and you picked well. 3 years Army here.

I would pick a technical job so when it comes time to get out of the military I could have a skill that transfers to the civilian world and hopefully one that pays well.

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Old 02-02-2011, 21:26   #55
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You can't enlist straight into CATM.
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Old 02-02-2011, 21:31   #56
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i turned 23 my first week at lackland basic training back in 1982. Did four years refueling planes. No regrets, met pres. Reagan had plenty of good times mainly because i stayed single !!!! Don't get hung up on this bit of "i have to have a job that relates to the civilian world when i get out stuff" that's years away and who knows what you'll be interested in doing for a living then. Stay away from the dope guys, keep alcohol to a min, and keep a positive attitude and you'll enjoy your time. Remember that 100 years from now there will be records of your military service for your great-grandkids to read so behave yourself.

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Old 02-02-2011, 21:39   #57
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Go into fire protection.

Seriously, after basic, you'll train to be a fireman and get to learn alot,including everything that is available out in the civilian world and then some.You can go right from your fireman job right into any civie firestation and get a job.

The training is tough,but interesting as hell.You'll get alot of respect too.
??? FD??? I know alot of Fire Fighters. Some cool, some not. Like all jobs. But get alot of respect? I actually just deployed with a bunch of Fire Fighters. Got back a week ago. You guys are kinda like a cult! It was fun though.
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Old 02-11-2011, 19:56   #58
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Isn't Security Forces guarding a missal silo in South Dakota at -35 degrees?

We dont have silos up here anymore and its only gotten to -25 so far this yr! After the temp hits zero you don't feel any colder....on the bright side you'll end up wearing shorts when it hit +32, 3 days later!
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Old 02-13-2011, 15:30   #59
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make for damn sure you read all the paper work and that your job is guaranteed. never go in open general! also know if you wash out or get tossed out of you career field they will throw you where ever they need you. i wish you the best.
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:53   #60
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make for damn sure you read all the paper work and that your job is guaranteed. never go in open general! also know if you wash out or get tossed out of you career field they will throw you where ever they need you. i wish you the best.

I asked for Security Police/Forces but later I was tricked into open general and could have ended up doing a services job like work at the gym handing out towels like on of our LT's did when he washed out of SF or any other job I didn't like. Read you paperwork. If they can't guarantee you a job that is usually incorrect as I learned from the superintendent at MEPS. In my case I met with a personal specialist at Lackland AFB during basic and got my SF job. He understood that I got "hood winked" and I got my SF gig.

I'm sure there are many people who can share a "hood winked" by the recruiter story. For me in the end it worked out, many thanks to my Lord in Heaven.

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