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Old 12-27-2011, 20:38   #1
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Lightweight preps?

What are some items that don't weigh much but serve a lot and/or important purposes. Compact is a plus as well.

I'm thinking paracord and bic-type lighters. What else?

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Old 12-27-2011, 22:54   #2
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Knife, flashlight, beef jerky, money, anything in any of the edc psk threads.
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What is the purpose of this thread? To seperate preps into categories of light or heavy, or because you are putting together a new kit? More information...
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:05   #6
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What is the purpose of this thread? To seperate preps into categories of light or heavy, or because you are putting together a new kit? More information...
No new kit. But it seems like, when building kits, weight plays a big role because things do add up quickly. So this is for those items that might be highly versatile but not weigh a great deal. In other words, getting the most bang for your weight-buck.

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No new kit. But it seems like, when building kits, weight plays a big role because things do add up quickly. So this is for those items that might be highly versatile but not weigh a great deal. In other words, getting the most bang for your weight-buck.

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That makes for a good thread, "the lightest kit with the most stuff". I like it.

You have to have a good Leatherman, Penlight with batteries, whistle, compass, water purification pills too. You could make a good list here.
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:06   #9
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I would scratch the M37 opener and put a SAK in its place as you immediately have two blades, a can opener, a (useless) bottle opener, two sizes of screwdriver blades, a leather sewing awl and a corkscrew opener in a light package.

Emphasis on the big and small blade, screwdrivers, can opener and leather awl. The other stuff not so much but its there. Ill admit that im biased towards SAKs, ive been using them since im 5 years old and they always worked great for me. YMMV


Water purification tabs!

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Old 12-28-2011, 10:37   #10
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Large, strong garbage bag

pack rain cover
tarp
emergency poncho
stuff with leaves for insulation
body bag
water carrier
stuff sack for wet clothing
back pack liner
hang food from trees
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:40   #12
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Good thread topic!!

Here is an interesting source that rates various ultralight products:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...aff_picks.html

That page has links to 5 previous years of ratings also.

FWIW, I have an "ultralight" 2 oz Spycerco Caly Jr that's one of my favorite, most functional knives w/ 3" blade. It gets carried every day and is unnoticeable until needed. Spyderco is also coming out with a new "Air" knife at 1.3 ounces.

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Here's how I carry liquids and drys "ultralight" style. Straws with pinched and melted ends, waterproof. Beats carrying a whole tube/box/bottle, and make more as needed.

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The "Tinder" is dryer lint mixed with vasoline. Catches a spark well and burns long enough to get the fire going.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:27   #14
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Wow Bolster! Good Job!
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Bolster that is one of the better ideas I have seen posted here in some time. What do you use to melt the ends?
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Would love to take credit but I learned the trick at EDC Forums. Those guys and gals are experts at finding ways to carry what you need, highly recommended reading. Their goal is to be "always prepared," but not so much for EOTW situations, more for everyday situations.

Cut the straw to preferred size. Pinch one end shut with a needlenose pliers, with about 1/8" to 1/4" of the straw protruding beyond the pliers. Then get the protruding end of the straw melty on a gas burner, candle, torch, what have you. Once the protruding bit of plastic is soft, move the pliers over on top of the melted portion and scrunch down. As the plastic cools, it will seal under the pressure of the pliers' jaws.

Fill about half full, and repeat on the other end. Then test the seal by pressing firmly in the middle of the straw. If there's a leak it will spurt out. If not, you're good. Leave some air in the sealed portion so your StrawTube won't burst.

Best not to try to seal liquids that melt plastic (such as acetone or gasoline) and you may want to use caution on foodstuffs, as we don't know what substances are being released from the hot plastic. Also flammable liquids or powders need extra care, such as the insect spray I sealed.

I would love to find pure ethanol to seal. That could be used to sterilize or as a fire starter. I wonder if denatured ethanol would work just as well. I also plan to seal up some sunscreen lotion.

The straws from Am Pm Minimarts are great. The In N Out straws are also good. Quality straws are heavy and flexible and won't crack when pinched. The 7-Eleven straws are horrible.

I make my StrawTubes 1.5" long, which fit inside the pill-sized ziplocks found in the pharmacy section of drug stores.

I EDC the 8 StrawTubes pictured. For 0.2 ounces of weight, I can wash up after at least two wounds, repel insects for maybe 2 days, and start at least two fires using six matches, even if my entire bag has been underwater.
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Thanks for that, I think I am going to make some up.

As for the ethanol, try bacardi 151. I used to carry that when hiking, works pretty good as a fire starter among other things.
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Good tip! Is Bacardi 151 the highest proof drinking alcohol (ethanol) readily available?

Actually might want to carry that in something more flask-like, since we don't know what chemicals leech from a straw into edible substances. Perhaps none, but I'm not a chemist, so don't know.
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Good tip! Is Bacardi 151 the highest proof drinking alcohol (ethanol) readily available?

Actually might want to carry that in something more flask-like, since we don't know what chemicals leech from a straw into edible substances. Perhaps none, but I'm not a chemist, so don't know.
I think Everclear is 190.
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I think Everclear is 190.
I was about to mention the same.

According to the below, 190 proof may not be available in all states. It also notes some of the other uses for the beverage. 151 proof does burn independently once lit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everclear_(alcohol)
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The Bickerpedia link says up to 190 proof...! If you are in a non-nanny state, you can get it. Here in Cali-Nanny-fornia, both the 190 and the 151 versions of Everclear are illegal. So that would mean the Bacardi 151 would also be illegal.

Something to remember on my next Arizona run.

Putting aside the medicinal and recreational usage of it, I suppose denatured ethanol would provide antiseptic and fuel uses.
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Any suggestions for making hot water or cooking? Something that would fit into a BOB and ideally run on both alcohol and wood?

Something along this line I guess:

http://www.theboilerwerks.com/
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Those straws are going to be fantastic for my Altoids kit. The closest things I've had to that were the small plastic test tubes Nutnfancy had in his medical kit.
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Vasaline coated cotton balls and a fire stick.
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Here's how I carry liquids and drys "ultralight" style. Straws with pinched and melted ends, waterproof. Beats carrying a whole tube/box/bottle, and make more as needed.
Cool idea! Just make sure you have a knife or a scissor with you!
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