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Old 01-05-2011, 17:20   #61
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Finally succumbed to those "buy gold" ads. Spent $50,000 to get $25,000 in actual gold.

Man, I feel great. My $50,000 was in paper and everyone knows it will be worthless.
Sooooo.....you paid twice spot? Really?
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Old 01-05-2011, 21:10   #62
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Finally saw The Book of Eli. Not too much to learn about SP except fun to watch the barter scene and the usual Mutant Zombie Bikers.

Learned: If you're in PAW and facing a goon squad led by Gary Oldman, kill Oldman first.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:11   #63
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Finally saw The Book of Eli. Not too much to learn about SP except fun to watch the barter scene and the usual Mutant Zombie Bikers.

Learned: If you're in PAW and facing a goon squad led by Gary Oldman, kill Oldman first.
I watched the Book of Eli again recently as well. Funny you mentioned the barter scene - that's what stuck with me as well. What hit me is that we might be shocked at some of the stuff that is "worth" something post-SHTF... like shampoo and wet-wipes.

From a survival standpoint, ole' Eli did just about everything WRONG with the exception of getting in good with God.
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Obtained three working squirrel trap cages. They work beautifully. Watched as set rat traps did not work. Double benefit. Protects fruit tree output when it is not shtf. Will work after shtf.
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Old 01-06-2011, 19:53   #65
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learned how easy it really is to plug my own tire. lots cheaper too. plugs and patches are up to 15 bucks now. used to be 6. got 5 plugs and the tools to do it for 8.

i have always done most all the work to my own vehicles, sometimes paying for oil changes due to laziness, but tires are one thing i never messed with before.
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Bottled more water for the emergency stash.
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Bottled more water for the emergency stash.
What did you bottle it in?
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What did you bottle it in?
Gallon water jugs. Building the kitchen stash first, about 20 gallons in the cupboard, then loading up a rack in the basement.

I know, I should probably load up the basement first incase something happens. But I have immediate need for minor power failures, flushing the toilets, etc.

I use hosed out gallon orange juice mainly.
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How long does water "last" in a re-used one gallon plastic jug that once contained distilled water?

Specifically, if I use a gallon of distilled water for my kid's humidifier and then refill it with tapwater, how long will it last?
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Milk jugs don't last that long,I'd use scepter cans or something made of a heavier plastic.3liter soda bottles are pretty strong.'08.
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How long does water "last" in a re-used one gallon plastic jug that once contained distilled water?

Specifically, if I use a gallon of distilled water for my kid's humidifier and then refill it with tapwater, how long will it last?
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Milk jugs don't last that long,I'd use scepter cans or something made of a heavier plastic.3liter soda bottles are pretty strong.'08.
I would not use either container.

The containers that I have seen for distilled water are not constructed to last forever. I believe they are designed to decompose fairly fast.

I am thinking that the large gallon milk jugs are the same, plus you have to clean them out or you have milk contaminate your water.

I have been using 2 liter pop bottles. I have a large stash of them under my bed. They have been there for more than a year with no issues. At another location, I have several other 2 littler bottles that have been around for much longer.
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I actually did use the distilled water jugs. I use a CPAP machine with a humidifier and it beats just throwing them away.

They will last for years.

I'm more concerned with refilling them every 6 months or so to keep bacteria or mold from forming, mildew, mold whatever.
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That's more of what I was asking - how long can I keep the water around. So about six months?
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Old 01-08-2011, 16:16   #75
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Finish my pilot lessons and get my license. I've been at it for too long. Here's my advice if you decide to become a pilot. Fly at least 3 times a week, more if you can afford it. Good luck and remember.

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That's more of what I was asking - how long can I keep the water around. So about six months?
Six months. I hear that's the recommended, sounds about right.
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I'm more concerned with refilling them every 6 months or so to keep bacteria or mold from forming, mildew, mold whatever.
Assuming you are starting out with good water and a clean container that is sealed, water can be stored forever.

There are some caveats:
Water will go flat and taste funny. It is not bad, but it tastes funny.

You should keep Chlorine around and a water purifier. That way if your water doesn't smell good or taste good.....
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We had 11 extra people stay over last night. Interesting exercise in food/water/toilet paper/other items consumption.

Just hygiene alone is going to be a challenge.

Too cold to be outside so everyone stayed inside. Good look at what one would have to have to take care of those people who might show up on your doorstep if the SHTF.

I've got a lot of work to do.
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Gallon water jugs. Building the kitchen stash first, about 20 gallons in the cupboard, then loading up a rack in the basement.

I know, I should probably load up the basement first incase something happens. But I have immediate need for minor power failures, flushing the toilets, etc.

[B]I use hosed out gallon orange juice mainly.
Piece of advice: Just don't use milk cartons.

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Assuming you are starting out with good water and a clean container that is sealed, water can be stored forever.

There are some caveats:
Water will go flat and taste funny. It is not bad, but it tastes funny.

You should keep Chlorine around and a water purifier. That way if your water doesn't smell good or taste good.....
This.

A little bit of bleach (use a medicine dropper, I forget how much to use, do a search) mixed in when you bottle it up is not a bad idea either. If you get too much chorine taste when it comes time to drink let it sit out for awhile. Also, if it tastes flat, poor it back and forth between contaienrs.
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This.

A little bit of bleach (use a medicine dropper, I forget how much to use, do a search) mixed in when you bottle it up is not a bad idea either. If you get too much chorine taste when it comes time to drink let it sit out for awhile. Also, if it tastes flat, poor it back and forth between contaienrs.

Yep and yep.

I have nothing against using the 2L soda bottles either.

Not only sloshing from container to container, but I can also run it thru one of the pitcher filters I have.

Not a single one of the problems listed is a downside in comparison to filthy, unhygenic water from any of a number of sources you could end up forced to use. Mandatory boiling type of sources.
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