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Old 12-21-2010, 16:58   #1
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Malware trace? Info needed...

Any insight would be appreciated:

Here is the short version. My wife had a strange charge on her Ccard pop up. Some bunch called MNI creditreport.com. Checked my card and sure enough, I had a charge also. Disputed the charges, got new cards issued and on the way, closed out those account number.

Now, we rarely use these cards. If I order something on line, I usually use Paypal. I did order something with my card recently and so did the wife (Christmas shopping). So I figure something is on my system.

In safe mode, I download malwarebytes and find that I had malware trace. What little I can tell about it is it searches for CC numbers and somehow gets them (keylogger?) when you enter them. I am 90 percent sure I have that malware off the comptuer now.

My question: where does one "get" something like this from? My son hits a lot of websites and I suspect that is where it came from. Music sites, kid pre-teen sites....that kind of crap.

Anyway, I ran Ccleaner also and am tempted to download Spybot S&D later. We also run Norton 360.

Also, is paying by paypal a somewhat "safer" way of doing business since I don't have to enter the numbers when a transaction is completed?

Thanks in advance for any insight. I did a search and came up with nada.

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Old 12-21-2010, 17:13   #2
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Any insight would be appreciated:

In safe mode, I download malwarebytes and find that I had malware trace. What little I can tell about it is it searches for CC numbers and somehow gets them (keylogger?) when you enter them. I am 90 percent sure I have that malware off the comptuer now.

My question: where does one "get" something like this from? My son hits a lot of websites and I suspect that is where it came from. Music sites, kid pre-teen sites....that kind of crap.
With latest Flash Exploits, just surfing the web is good possibility. Nothing you can do except run Chrome and keep flash up to date and that's not perfect. If you have Vista/7, leaving UAC turned on and possibly locking the kid to Limited User account wouldn't hurt. If your surfing the net and UAC pops up, the answer is NO unless you expect the browser to be installing something.

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Anyway, I ran Ccleaner also and am tempted to download Spybot S&D later. We also run Norton 360.
Ccleaner: Pointless
Spybot S&D: Un neccessory
Norton 360: Complete trash, hope you didn't pay for it. Remove it and install Microsoft Security Essentials

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Also, is paying by paypal a somewhat "safer" way of doing business since I don't have to enter the numbers when a transaction is completed?
It's somewhat safer but Paypal has shenanigan issues of it own. If it's big site like Best Buy/Amazon, it provides little protection.

I'd chock it up to "It happens and it's like fire. You just put it out and move on"

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Old 12-21-2010, 17:37   #3
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Okay, that is what I was afraid of.

I caught it real early....less than 15 dollars on my card and 15 and 25 on my wife's card.

I guess not carrying a balance and checking the statements carefully paid off. I have read horror stories on the net of folks paying these charges over and over and not catching it until months have passed.
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Old 12-21-2010, 18:01   #4
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Nothing you can do "


It's just nothing people WANT to do.
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Old 12-21-2010, 18:18   #5
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No, I want Windows to lock it down but then Tech Talk would be filled full of users who XYZ program made in early 2000s no longer works and blah blah blah. Windows XP -> 7 Migration at work is enough to make me go insane.

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Old 12-21-2010, 23:17   #6
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I'd chock it up to "It happens and it's like fire. You just put it out and move on"
No, some of us never have it happen because we have moved on.
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:18   #7
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Any insight would be appreciated:

In safe mode, I download malwarebytes and find that I had malware trace. What little I can tell about it is it searches for CC numbers and somehow gets them (keylogger?) when you enter them. I am 90 percent sure I have that malware off the comptuer now.
Malwarebytes is excellent -- good job! Do yourself a favor and upgrade to the professional version -- the professional version offers a real-time web blocker (to malicious links) which has saved me more times I can count.

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My question: where does one "get" something like this from? My son hits a lot of websites and I suspect that is where it came from. Music sites, kid pre-teen sites....that kind of crap.
Believe it or not you can pick up malware from trusted, "legitimate" websites. Often times third party advertisements contain malware, totally unbeknownst to the host of the website.

I don't know what browser you're using -- if you haven't already, you might consider using Firefox with the NoScript addon installed:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722/

And if you get the professional version of Malwarebytes, it will help offer real-time protection.

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Also, is paying by paypal a somewhat "safer" way of doing business since I don't have to enter the numbers when a transaction is completed?

Thanks in advance for any insight. I did a search and came up with nada.

Regards
I've always had good luck with PayPal. IMO it's as safe as anything out there. Then again, I understand some credit cards offer one-time, disposable credit card numbers, something I'm going to explore as another option.

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http://majorgeeks.com/IObit_Security_360_d6088.html
run it, dont use it as your main protection. great for finding junk though.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:30   #9
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Even though there maybe great anti-virus software out there. Nothing is gauranteed to take a virus off, no matter how much money you spend. That being said I'd get yourself a windows 7 disc, keep your data backed up in various locations and just reload each time you get a virus. This should be no more than 6-7 months (or you got issues) and usually should be more around 2 years.. After one reload you've almost saved yourself the cost on anti-virus software, and it takes about 10-15 minutes of your time to reload the OS...
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Old 12-26-2010, 13:27   #10
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Another cool program that I found is called sandboxie. It basically isolates a program from the rest of your OS by running in a virtual environment. You can check on youtube. I've tried to find a virus or two to get it to work but it's harder than you think when you're looking for them.
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Old 12-26-2010, 17:48   #11
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This holiday also did order some stuff, but when checking out was looking over the pages there was like take 10% off shipping and other discounts. If you didnt looked at it closer you were enrolling in something.
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