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Old 08-22-2014, 17:44   #1
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What does the Confederate flag mean to you?

Near Tampa, FL where I-75 splits N/S off of I-4 there is a huge Confederate flag (30ft x 50 ft). It is owned by the Sons of Confederate Veterans and acts as a memorial park for those who fought for the South during the Civil War.

There are numerous articles written about it, and even among my friends there are differing opinions about it. There are of course issues of free speech and the right to fly whatever flag you want.

But what does the flag itself represent to you? Let's keep it clean.
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:48   #2
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:50   #3
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I am not a Southerner, and I see it as a symbol of pride in a specific culture and heritage.

I know some people see it as a symbol of hatred and racism.

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Old 08-22-2014, 17:52   #4
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It's a part of our country's history, simple as that.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
- George Santayana

It also perfectly demonstrates why a civil war would not work right now if it was purely citizens against the government. You'd need a military coup for a governmental overthrow to work, our military is too well equipped for a citizen-led revolt to not be quashed in 30 seconds.

I see no reason why we should avoid discussing that part of our history, or why some people shouldn't be allowed to show they're proud that people stood up for themselves, just like how our founding fathers stood up for themselves.

Just so long as you remember that history is written by the victor, and everything you read in your school's textbook isn't necessarily the truth as it actually happened. And pro-confederate people are obviously going to be biased towards the confederacy, so they're not likely going to speak the truth as it actually happened either. They might play some sob story about the mean old union being horrible people, blah, blah,blah. And the anti-confederate people might give you some other sob story, or whatever.

Basically, it's a part of our history that shouldn't be ignored, and people need to learn to grow up and quit being so childish when someone flies the confederate battle flag.

That, and it's fun to have people be all surprised when they find out the "Confederate Flag" is actually their battle flag, and not their national flag.
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:53   #5
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this wont last long .

lets just say im southern born and bred southern til im dead .
the people who are against the flag dont know their ass from a hole in the ground
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:54   #6
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But what does the flag itself represent to you?
A brave, but failed attempt to get back to our Constitutional foundation.
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:54   #7
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It just reminds me of the civil war.

I have no thoughts about it being bad or good, just history
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:59   #8
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It means what the person flying it intends it to mean, same as any symbol. Frankly, around here in Ohio, I have never seen one that was not an expression of racial hatred.

If I were driving through the South I would not make that same assumption. I would feel little respect for someone who did not feel proud of an ancestors service, even in a cause that mine gave his health and fortune to oppose. But up here, I have neighbors who fly them and what I know of them does not seem to indicate a deep interest in history or much in the way of respect for anything.
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Old 08-22-2014, 17:59   #9
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Remember it said what does it mean to YOU...im in that old hate and racism deal...but of course im from the north also am against the slavery deal . But does it really bother me..no would i fly it also no.

doesnt matter if others disagree with your views on what it means because the title was whats it mean to you...

also reminds me of what was said above..a piece of history. Go to Gettysburg often know both sides of the story..glad everything in the end worked out like it did.

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Old 08-22-2014, 18:08   #10
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Just another piece of American history. tom.
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:14   #11
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Only the discusting race baiters like Jesse Jacked and Al ShakeDown see it as anything other than a piece of American history.
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Reminds me of the roof on the General Lee.
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:20   #14
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Only the discusting race baiters like Jesse Jacked and Al ShakeDown see it as anything other than a piece of American history.
Unfortunately, this isn't true......

Since it's part of the liberal left's agenda to make the Confederate flag into a race issue, that's what many people believe.

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It`s history NOT hate.
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:23   #16
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I just saw a guy in a pickup truck with a large American flag on one side and a Confederate flag on the other. Aside from the fact he had just pulled out of Walmart, it basically screamed, "hey there! I'm a white trash redneck."
I'd love to see him drive that truck through downtown Ferguson, MI at night with a white pointed hood on and see how long the flag flies.
I get the history part, but I still don't think the south knows they LOST!
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:26   #17
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Old 08-22-2014, 18:39   #18
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I'd love to see him drive that truck through downtown Ferguson, MI at night with a white pointed hood on and see how long the flag flies.
I'd like to see you drive whatever it is you drive through parts of downtown Ferguson at night. Probably wouldn't turn out much better for you.
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I am not a Southerner, and I see it as a symbol of pride in a specific culture and heritage.

I know some people see it as a symbol of hatred and racism.

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I just saw a guy in a pickup truck with a large American flag on one side and a Confederate flag on the other. Aside from the fact he had just pulled out of Walmart, it basically screamed, "hey there! I'm a white trash redneck."
I'd love to see him drive that truck through downtown Ferguson, MI at night with a white pointed hood on and see how long the flag flies.
I get the history part, but I still don't think the south knows they LOST!
Whats in Ferguson Michigan????
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