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Old 01-01-2011, 00:16   #1
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Opinions of Armscor/RIA with 3.5" Barrel

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Gentleman at a local gun store showed me an RIA 1911 with a 3.5" barrel today. What's your opinion? Worth buying? Reliable?

Roughly how much should it cost to have an ambi safety installed, including the cost of the safety? Any particular ambi safety you'd recommend?


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Old 01-01-2011, 00:57   #2
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what's the price on that RIA? They are nice for the price. Should be around $400-$450 for the new pistol.

Ambi should be around $70-80 installed, including parts. I just installed some Ed Brown Tactical ambi on one of my 1911...not impressed. It's going to be return to the shop for a new Wilson Combat ambi. I have a set of Kimber ambi on one of my other 1911, and I like it. It actually doesn't require ambi grips, since it's not held in with a tab under the grip.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:20   #3
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Good guns, but I don't buy short barreled 1911s.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:14   #4
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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:02   #5
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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
They're gotten a lot better over the last five years or so.

They just aren't for me.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:32   #6
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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
What about 4" or so like the Springfield Champion Operator?

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From what I've seen, if you want less than a 5"bbl, a true 4 1/4" commander with a bushing is a pretty safe bet.

I've had a couple of 4 1/4" 1911s and sold 'em, mainly because they didn't help with anything (concealment, carryability, reliability) compared to a 5" 1911. For me.

Some people prefer a commander size gun and they usually run well, I've seen a few with very high round counts that still run well.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:48   #8
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The Armscor RIA/Citadel is a fine gun for the price point. a friend on a budget that wanted a small 1911 for carry bought one on my recommendation. the first outing it had issues, but that was because there was a lot of grease/lube in the firing pin channel to keep it from rusting on the boat over from the Philippines. after that was cleared out, the next outing was at a pistol class where we fired +500 rds for the day. hmmm...ran perfectly fine and nothing needed to be done during the day, not even adding more lube (which i did the day before).

So if it's all that you can afford to purchase, i wouldn't hesitate.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:46   #9
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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
Someone better tell this one that it is not supposed to as good as it is. Never a problem with it and will feed anything. I trust is so much that I carry it everyday.
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Old 01-01-2011, 12:32   #10
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I have several compact 1911's, including the RIA and haven't had any issues with any of them.
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Old 01-01-2011, 17:31   #11
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My Compact Tactical RIA has had zero issues with factory ammo or jacketed (to include JHP) bullet reloads. Had a few issues with lead 225 grain bullets that were not crimped very well---reloading problem, not gun problem. My RIA is one of my favorite carry pieces (with factory ammo--Speer GDHP).
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Someone better tell this one that it is not supposed to as good as it is. Never a problem with it and will feed anything. I trust is so much that I carry it everyday.
Yup...same. Besides the common extractor issue with the EMP, mine has been flawless so far. I don't have a tremendous amount of rounds through it, but I haven't had any issues. So, idk, I just must be confused and ignorant...

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Old 01-01-2011, 19:23   #13
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I have a couple RIA Compacts....

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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
Funny, the 3.5" RIA 1911 I have has been flawless. I have well over 600 rounds through it now, without a hiccup.

I should also mention that today at the LGS the owner was playing with a trigger pull gauge. We did a 10 pull average on my RIA and came up with 5lbs 4oz. Box stock, nothing changed on it.

I would buy another one in a heartbeat if the price was right.
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Old 01-02-2011, 00:47   #15
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I have a RIA compact and its been 100% reliable with ball and HP 230gr. ammo from various manufactures. Round count is somewhere around 4000 right now. I've used various mags for compact and full sized 1911s in my RIA compact but I use the officer sized Kimpro Tac mags when I carry it.

I also had a Kimber UCII that was 100% reliable as well. Most sub 5" 1911 negative reliability stories stem from custom jobs back in the day and when they first came about as regular production models. I think they got them down pretty well now.

Of course you'll get a negative review from time to time like any gun out there but don't let that deter you unless a legitimate consistent reason is out there. RIA 1911s are really good pistols.

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Old 01-02-2011, 17:46   #16
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My dad paid $390 out the door for a NIB one right before Christmas. I reload nothing but 200gr semi Wadcutter's I cast myself for .45ACP. A bullet that most 1911's have trouble feeding. But not this little baby, we ran 300 flawless rounds though it this week. It impressed me alot but then again so has my RIA Match I baught back in the summer. I've yet to see a RIA that wasnt reliable straight out of the box. They are awesome guns for the money IMO.

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Old 01-02-2011, 20:54   #17
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I would say "no" and "no".

3 1/2" 1911s rarely work well, no matter who made it.
I totally disagree. I've got 3, 1 a filippino, all great. Most issues operator related. See LCP, TCP, P3AT, P380, R9....

Have a full-size RIA, it's also excellent. Check out Centerfire Systems if you need some bargaining power.
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