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Old 01-10-2011, 21:58   #1
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charles daly m4

Hey guys i'm in the market for an AR and it will be my first, I do not have alot of experience with them but my gun shop has a charles daly for about $850 and an M&P 15 for about 950 but the smith had no iron sights. I didn't know since charles daly is defunct now if I had a problem with the rifle if I'd just be out of luck or if i'd be covered. I plan on putting an optic on it but would like the iron sights also, which strays me away from the smith. Sorry if this is long winded but it's a big chunk of change for me and want to get my money worth, so is the charles daly a good rifle or should I pop another $100 and get the smith. Thanks for the help guys.
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Old 01-10-2011, 23:20   #2
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Depends. Daly made some good ones and they made some not as high quality AR15's. I think I would go with the Smith.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:12   #3
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Whoa, I didnt even know Charles Daly even made M4's? With the plethora of quality AR's out there at our disposal...its tough to justify a gamble on the lesser known makers just to save a few bucks? I'd personally get the S&W. Thats my vote.
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Whoa, I didnt even know Charles Daly even made M4's? With the plethora of quality AR's out there at our disposal...its tough to justify a gamble on the lesser known makers just to save a few bucks? I'd personally get the S&W. Thats my vote.
Where you been? CD even made "the chart" until they closed shop...
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:21   #5
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I dont remember seeing CD on the infamous chart? Man I need glasses lol.

How did CD make it on the chart and Spikes didnt?
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I dont remember seeing CD on the infamous chart? Man I need glasses lol.

How did CD make it on the chart and Spikes didnt?
CD was making at one point something that was very close to a Colt quality AR15, as well as something that was closer to a Stag. I don't recall exactly what the designations were, but they made a distinction between their higher quality AR and their lower quality AR. I think the higher quality one was the "LE" version or something, IIRC...
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I dont remember seeing CD on the infamous chart? Man I need glasses lol.

How did CD make it on the chart and Spikes didnt?
Because you spent too much time reading on piston ARs. That's why.
Seriously, what RMT said.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:51   #8
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^ lol, good one. Yeah I can admit it. I like piston AR's.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:48   #9
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Between those two, I recommend the Smith, hands down. But I suggest you do more research before you buy.
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I dont remember seeing CD on the infamous chart? Man I need glasses lol.

How did CD make it on the chart and Spikes didnt?
At the time, CD was a sponsor of M4C.
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I would go with the Smith. I wouldn't buy a new rifle from a company that was no longer in business.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:57   #12
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Between those two, I recommend the Smith, hands down. But I suggest you do more research before you buy.
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If it was the CD M4LE model I would take that one over the M&P.
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I dont remember seeing CD on the infamous chart? Man I need glasses lol.

How did CD make it on the chart and Spikes didnt?
Its on there, or was anyway. I know because I got into an argument with the author when I asked him why CD was on it as they were defunct and Spikes was not. That turned out to be a pretty colorful thread.
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If it was the CD M4LE model I would take that one over the M&P.
Yep. Or look at Spikes Tactical.
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Ok so the general idea is to stay away from the CD I think i'll get the m&p and call it good I guess, thanks for the help guys.
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Ok so the general idea is to stay away from the CD I think i'll get the m&p and call it good I guess, thanks for the help guys.
You can do much better than the S&W for less money.
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You can do much better than the S&W for less money.
nobody listens, they just want to go to the store and pick what's on the shelf.
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$950 is high for an "optics ready" model with no iron sights. For about $100-$150 more you could get a Colt, or for under $800 you could get a Stag. (those prices don't include tax)
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