[DannyR]

I accept the written advice I receive from the Warranty Service Department of Glock, Inc., Smyrna, GA as good, sound advice. I have admitted to my excessive dry firing in the past. My "A-Zoom" snap caps should arrive today, and I will use them in the future. I will also present my 1996 G19 with a brand new recoil spring assembly after round #75,000 this month. The pistol should outlast me.

One should always dry fire a Glock before field stripping and before putting it away (unloaded).

[556A2]

One of the things I liked switching to the Glock platform was you could dry-fire endlessly without need for a snap-cap.

This doesn't make me a happy camper.

[in_this_city]

Originally Posted by SIGlock

I think it is O.K. to dry fire.....moderately....say a few hundred times a year. That's more that most people want to dry fire anyway.

A few hundred a year is fine, but for me, I dry fire a few hundred times a week. I always use a snap cap cause Id rather be safe than sorry.

and thank you DannyR for your informative posts. They are much appreciated.

[captdreifus]

Here is my question: How many times can you dryfire on the same snap cap? Mine has taken a beating and I am not sure if its cushioning the fp anymore..

thanks.

capt

[TRMN8R]

Originally Posted by poodleplumber

My wife and I are taking a Spanish class at night at a local college. One of our classmates is a native Spanish speaker, raised in southern Texas my Mexican parents. She is taking the class as an easy A elective (her other classes are some difficult math classes). My wife and I have befriended her and soak up all the knowledge we can from this sweet, charming, generous lady. Two of our gringo classmates are willing to argue with her about pronunciation of words in her native tongue.

Excellent analogy for this thread (and likely a few others ).

Coach,

I personally request that you continue to post as you have been with updated, relevant Glock information as you deem fit. It is MUCH appreciated by me, as well as many MANY other members on this board. Those that don't are the same individuals that would have you believe they invented the internet and coat hangers .

[Butch]

Originally Posted by COM165

I have a few snap caps for my .40 that have a small recess where the pin will strike. But for my 9mm I have a bag of SAF-T-TRAINERS that are flat in the back (no recess for pin to strike). They are blaze orange and made by a co. called Precision Gun Specialties Inc. I had used them for malfunction drills. Are these considered "snap caps" and is it safe to use them in my 19?

I didn't have time to read all 5 pages of this thread, but if anyone is still wondering about snap caps vs dummy rounds, go to the bottom of this article: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/blog.php?b=4

[greyeyezz]

Occasional dry firing is probably fine, excessive like thousands of times a week is maybe causing issues. Maybe Glock is getting tired of fixing damaged breech faces. I know for a fact excessive dry firing of a Sig will damage the breech block pin, I've seen it personally.

[RAH]

Originally Posted by DannyR

I accept the written advice I receive from the Warranty Service Department of Glock, Inc., Smyrna, GA as good, sound advice. I have admitted to my excessive dry firing in the past. My "A-Zoom" snap caps should arrive today, and I will use them in the future. I will also present my 1996 G19 with a brand new recoil spring assembly after round #75,000 this month. The pistol should outlast me.

One should always dry fire a Glock before field stripping and before putting it away (unloaded).

Have you changed any springs or other parts on your Glock 19?

[Snarlingiron]

Ok, dummy question for the sages amongst us. If one were to use a snap cap, how should it be accomplished? Glock says not to drop a round into the chamber and close the slide due to possible damage to the extractor.

When I dry fire practice I make it a practice to remove all ammunition and magazines from the area. I am guessing I will have to modify my procedure to removing all ammo, loading the snap cap into an otherwise empty magazine, chambering the snap cap, and then proceed to dry fire? Having the magazine in there makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Realizing that plastic snap caps wouldn't damage the extractor, but wouldn't the extractor then damage the rim of the snap cap?

Then on the other hand, if it takes me 10 years to damage the breech face, or whatever, that makes the cost of a new slide what about $15.00 a year (don't really know what a replacement slide would cost)?

Just thinking it through... maybe too much.

Fun thread. Again I find it hard to understand why folks get so riled up. It's your gun, if you want to dry fire it without a snap cap go right ahead. Just don't piss and moan when it eventually causes some damage.

[COM165]

Originally Posted by Butch

I didn't have time to read all 5 pages of this thread, but if anyone is still wondering about snap caps vs dummy rounds, go to the bottom of this article: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/blog.php?b=4

Thanks for posing this, Butch. It was very helpful. After reading this, I realized that both of the types of rounds that I have been using are "dummy rounds". I thought that the ones with the recessed area where the primer goes were snap caps. I was wrong.

So today I went out and bought some A-Zoom snap caps in .40S&W. They didn't have 9mm or .45ACP, so I'll have to check back. But I feel the difference when I dry fire. One of the dummy rounds I had basically had the same feel of dry firing. When I used the A-Zoom snap caps, I could feel the resistance of the pin striking the primer.

[-gunut-]

Originally Posted by DannyR

Fine, write to Glock and request it. It's no fuzz off my peach if you choose not to accept my information. What matters to me is that I indeed believe my reliable source.

I should know better by now that any posting of reliable information results in a brawl, so I will not trouble you with any more informational posts.

you are such a drama queen. people get all kinds of info from glock so it is normal to question it.

[GMT]

Originally Posted by DannyR

Fine, write to Glock and request it. It's no fuzz off my peach if you choose not to accept my information. What matters to me is that I indeed believe my reliable source.

I should know better by now that any posting of reliable information results in a brawl, so I will not trouble you with any more informational posts.

Danny, I for one would appreciate if you would continue with the posts as you have in the past. I have learned a great from you over the years and would hate to see that com to an end.

[silvrevo]

A-Zooms are nice,,,, dont buy the cheap plastic ones,, they dont work,, and splinter.

[Duck of Death]

*QUOTE*
I have learned a great from you over the years and would hate to see that com to an end.

Don't loose any sleep over it since 2002, when I joined GT, he's been going to quit posting 3 times.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Originally Posted by -gunut-

people get all kinds of info from glock so it is normal to question it.

That would be my experience.

I had two guys giving me conflicting information the last time I dealt with them.

Kind of results in zero confidence, but there is no harm in being careful.

[Sonnytoo]

Originally Posted by DannyR

My 1996 G19 is approaching 75,000 fired rounds and countless thousands of dry fires.

I suspect this answers my question.
sonnytoo

[gunsmoke92]

Thanks Danny, good info for sure. I am sorry Sir that so many people can't just take good information and say thanks, instead of questioning good peoples motives. Use the information, don't use the information, it's up to the individual, but trying to discredit an individual for providing something useful is just deplorable. It's people like you that get people like us to the next level. Thanks again and keep up the good work.

[Wriggly]

Dry firing Glocks is ok, it really is......





The after market slide manufacturers will be celebrating, now that Glock has put out a disclaimer.

[pistolcompetitor]

Originally Posted by Snarlingiron

Ok, dummy question for the sages amongst us. If one were to use a snap cap, how should it be accomplished? Glock says not to drop a round into the chamber and close the slide due to possible damage to the extractor.
<snip>

Take the snap cap and chamber it only after loading it in a mag and racking the slide. If you drop it directly into the chamber you risk damaging your extractor claw. One of the GATE guys mentioned this, too.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16074668

[English]

Originally Posted by Wriggly

Dry firing Glocks is ok, it really is......

I am sure this is just a limp wristing problem! http://glocktalk.com/forums/images/smilies/sunnies.gif

[English]

Originally Posted by pistolcompetitor

Take the snap cap and chamber it only after loading it in a mag and racking the slide. If you drop it directly into the chamber you risk damaging your extractor claw. One of the GATE guys mentioned this, too.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16074668

I can't believe that the impact of the ramped nose of the extractor against the rim of the cartridge would be enough to damage either. The extractor is clearly designed so that the rim of the incoming caartridge will slide up underneath it in the normal rechambering process. It is also clearly designed so that it will cam over the rim of a cartridge which is already in the chamber and I know an instructor who believes he must have done this several thousand times with the same G19 in the process of demonstrating misfeeds. His extractor is still the original one.

This does not mean that extractors cannot break but I doubt that they break for this reason.

English

[ChrisJn]

Originally Posted by gunsmoke92

Thanks Danny, good info for sure. I am sorry Sir that so many people can't just take good information and say thanks, instead of questioning good peoples motives. Use the information, don't use the information, it's up to the individual, but trying to discredit an individual for providing something useful is just deplorable. It's people like you that get people like us to the next level. Thanks again and keep up the good work.

I agree.
DannyR, remember the police training adage "Idle and silly remarks will be ignored". Also the old WW11 poster:-

[Gary1911A1]

Thanks Danny and Wriggly for the informative info and pictures. I have to order some snap caps so I can continue to practice for the GSSF Match later this month. I really do enjoy this forum as I learn so much.

[StanA]

I have alway's thought snap caps for dry firing is a good Idea.
But you have to admit it makes Glock's (and others) disassemble method seem strange if not wrong? In theory you risk damage each time you break it down. You would think Glock would redesign it so that it does not have to be dry fired for take down.

[Glock 21/22]

Think I'll call BS on this one. Snap caps are probably a good idea, not not needed in my opinion.