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Old 12-20-2010, 15:09   #61
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I know that there's a way, but that's not what the OP is asking about.
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Old 12-20-2010, 16:21   #62
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I know that there's a way, but that's not what the OP is asking about.

Just about every Glock I have shot out of the box, didn't shoot the same way; therefore, you had to compensate. Recently my 26 & 32 shot differently out of the box with fixed sights, as stated earlier...I had to adjust to the sights.

Even after replacing the sights on my 26 with Trijicon NS, it shot the same. My 32 came with Glock NS.





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Old 12-20-2010, 16:31   #63
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Old 12-20-2010, 16:33   #64
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What the hell am I missing here? How do you sight in a gun for elevation when there are no elevation adjustments? I think a lot of confusion in this thread is due to the fact that the OP is talking about standard factory glock sights, not some other type of "iron" sighting system where the shooter does have the ability to adjust the sight picture to his preference.

Well what are you talking about? The OP did not ask about elevation. To shoot any Glock with fixed factory sights (or any generic handgun with fixed sights for that matter), what you do is aim higher if you target is @ an elevation above yours (ie, point the gun at the target).

If you're talking about adjusting the "hold" or changing the sight picture to compensate for bullet drop, you change the relationship between the front/rear sights. Instead of the top of the front sight being flush with the rears ("equal height, equal light"), the front sight is canted up.

If this is not what yer asking, could you clarify please?

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Just about every Glock I have shot out of the box, didn't shoot the same way.......
Exactly!

Like all too many people, the OP seems to expect the gun to be perfectly sighted in as it comes out of the box, and ya just need to find out how to align the sights to make it hit 'right', but that's not the case.

He's right about needing to learn how to align the sights 'correctly', but like nearly every other gun, Glocks do not always hit to the same point of aim as the next one does, and the user needs to sight it in to shoot the way he wants it to.

Glocks manufacturing process is VERY consistent though, and they do tend to shoot very close to the point of aim as they come out of the box, so close that they, if anything, normally only need a very little drifting of the rear sight, or on rare occasions, a rear sight that is only a fraction of a millimeter higher or lower to get the job done.

IF a person is new to Glocks, they may well be shooting 4 to 6 inches low and left, which is why they are asking about how to align the sights thinking the gun may not be shooting straight.....but we all know what the real problem is.
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Old 12-20-2010, 16:57   #66
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I always use #2.

#3 seems like it would mostly apply to night sights.
i always use #2 too but why would it be any different with night sights?
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i always use #2 too but why would it be any different with night sights?
Well i guess it wouldnt be, but if it was dark, youd just be making sure your dots are in line and point them at your target as best you can.
Since you cant really see the cross in #3, for me personally thats how i would aim in the dark. Just a personal thing i guess.
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Old 12-20-2010, 18:23   #68
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Old 12-20-2010, 18:33   #69
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Well what are you talking about? The OP did not ask about elevation. To shoot any Glock with fixed factory sights (or any generic handgun with fixed sights for that matter), what you do is aim higher if you target is @ an elevation above yours (ie, point the gun at the target).
OK I got it.

But what if the target it so my left?

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Old 12-20-2010, 18:37   #70
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Just about every Glock I have shot out of the box, didn't shoot the same way; therefore, you had to compensate. Recently my 26 & 32 shot differently out of the box with fixed sights, as stated earlier...I had to adjust to the sights...

Exactly.

I guess, for the OP, it might be nice to have an idea what Glock sets their sights up to do. But unless you shoot the same ammo they use for this setup -its a moot point. You just have to bench the gun and figure out what that gun with those sights and ammo are doing on target. Then decide if you want to adjust your technique to fit that combo or make some changes to the sights.

I rarely even shoot a new Glock with the sights the factory provides. I often have a new sight set ordered before I take the new gun to the range
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Old 12-20-2010, 18:44   #71
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Well what are you talking about? The OP did not ask about elevation. To shoot any Glock with fixed factory sights (or any generic handgun with fixed sights for that matter), what you do is aim higher if you target is @ an elevation above yours (ie, point the gun at the target).

If you're talking about adjusting the "hold" or changing the sight picture to compensate for bullet drop, you change the relationship between the front/rear sights. Instead of the top of the front sight being flush with the rears ("equal height, equal light"), the front sight is canted up.

If this is not what yer asking, could you clarify please?

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Old 12-20-2010, 18:58   #72
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Can anyone tell me what is the BEST Glock is????
What should i use to clean my Glock
Is gen 4 better than gen3......................LOL
Wrong thread - that belongs in Glockdude's "Tittles of threads sure to be locked".

As for my 2 cents, #2 is what I use. While I am no sharp shooter, i do tend to hit what I'm aiming at with that. I use #3 when the target is much further out.
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Image #2 is a POA sight picture. Image #2 is the correct one.
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Old 12-20-2010, 19:19   #74
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I wish Hickock45 would chime in, because I'd really be interested in hearing what he had to say about it.
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Old 12-20-2010, 22:11   #75
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I shoot my 1911 #2, this is the way I prefer it too be.

Unfortunately my G32 shoots #3 from 7' to 30+ yards. I dont really care for covering the target like that but its the way it shoots.

Oddly enough I just figured it shot low. I let a friend shoot it and he was running a tight group around the bullseye. I asked him how he shot and he said cover the target with the front sight (#3) like I was an idiot. That the way I've been shooting, seems to work...
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Unfortunately my G32 shoots #3 from 7' to 30+ yards. I dont really care for covering the target like that but its the way it shoots.
So, why don't you put a higher rear sight on it?
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:27   #78
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So I guess the final answer is, it should be Image #2 by design and intent, as every handgun with non adjustable sights that I have ever owned or shot has been, but some guns may be defective and therefore will require either Image #1 or #3.
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Which picture do you use if you're holding the gun sideways gangsta style?
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So I guess the final answer is, it should be Image #2 by design and intent, as every handgun with non adjustable sights that I have ever owned or shot has been, but some guns may be defective and therefore will require either Image #1 or #3.
Except for the last part, I think that's a fair assessment.

I don't agree that a Glock is 'defective' because it doesn't shoot to point of aim as it leaves the factory.

The shooter has a lot of input as to where the gun shoots, primarily the shooters vision and ability to control recoil can affect the guns point of impact, but how the shooter aligns the sights can have a huge affect. That's why the shooter needs to sight the gun in to fit him and his shooting style and ability.

If we were talking about S&W Model 10 revolvers or SAA Colts, it would be a lot less reasonable for shooters to 'sight them in' because they really do have fixed sights, but Glock sights can be moved/replaced easily enough to get the point of impact right where the shooter wants it to be.
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