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01-13-2011, 14:06
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Not so good range session today.
Hit the range for the lunch 1/2 hour special. Wanted to shoot my AR15 and Pistol.
Started with my AR15 - first reload didn't fire. Next one slam fired. Weapon was downrange when it happened. No one injured.
Case flew out and caught me in the face.
Not a great way to start the session. The rest of the rounds fired fine.
Then started shooting pistol. Didn't matter where I shot in the stall brass kept ejecting and hitting the rail above me. Sounded like I was shooting the metal plates holding the target (which gets you kicked off the range).
Will pull first round that didn't fire and see what was wrong with it.
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01-13-2011, 14:12
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Like the song says, "Sometimes you're the windshield,
sometimes you're the bug".
It'll work itself out.
Bad day at the range is still better than a good day at work.
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01-13-2011, 14:13
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When I don't clean my AR for a while I get light primer strikes. Maybe it was that.
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01-13-2011, 14:21
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The AR sounds like a sizing issue w/ the slam fire & FT fire. Full length sizing only.
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01-13-2011, 14:24
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Last edited by cowboy1964; 01-13-2011 at 14:26..
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01-13-2011, 14:26
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Remember that glocks like to be run dry and AR's really like to be wet.
Have you changed your glock load recently?
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01-13-2011, 14:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
The AR sounds like a sizing issue w/ the slam fire & FT fire. Full length sizing only.
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Full length resizing for 223 is all I ever have done.
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Remember that glocks like to be run dry and AR's really like to be wet.
Have you changed your glock load recently?
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I gave the AR a squirt of CLP just before I loaded the magazine.
I have not changed my Glock load. 6 grains unique with a 230 grain FMJ is my tried and true load.
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01-13-2011, 14:54
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The slam fire could be as simple as a high primer, especially if you haven't changed anything and its never happened before.
The FTF could be a myriad of things, slightly high primer with the strike just pushing it forward, primer missing the anvil, contaminated primer, etc. It happens, and if you keep loading it won't be the last time.
If you haven't changed anything with your pistol loading and they've worked in the past check your extractor/ejector for a build-up of gunk or possibly a slight chip out of it that would change the geometry and effect the ejection trajectory... or start shooting revolvers.
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01-13-2011, 16:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
The AR sounds like a sizing issue w/ the slam fire & FT fire. Full length sizing only.
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or high primers.
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01-13-2011, 17:10
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I'd love to see the FT round? And after you ejected that round you had the slam fire? I'm thinking your FP was stuck forward -ie no where to go first round and that caused the slam fire on the second- which broke it free! Did you release the bolt or use the charging handle a slow load the first round?
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01-14-2011, 07:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454
I'd love to see the FT round? And after you ejected that round you had the slam fire? I'm thinking your FP was stuck forward -ie no where to go first round and that caused the slam fire on the second- which broke it free! Did you release the bolt or use the charging handle a slow load the first round? 
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I'll take a closer look at the fail to fire round this weekend. By mistake I dumped it on the tumbler with the other spent brass when I got home. You might be correct about the FP being stuck forward. I would imagine that is rare? I may have used the bolt release for the first round. I really can't remember. I'm was shooting left handed so I don't think I could have had my finger on the trigger when I used the bolt release on the 2nd round. But that is possible. Happened pretty quickly. I'll spend some time this weekend cleaning the rifle as well.
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