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Old 01-16-2011, 00:15   #1
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Thoughts on the new Kimber full sized frame Ultra CDP?

Doesn't look too bad, but, since I already have a CDP Pro, what makes it worth buying? If I'm gonna have a full sized frame, then why not have the 4" barrel? And if I'm gonna have a 3" barrel, then why not have the officer frame? Just curious as to what you guys think?
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:39   #2
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I have a Colt Defender Plus (full size frame and 3" barrel) and carry it more that my CBOB.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:03   #3
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Doesn't look too bad, but, since I already have a CDP Pro, what makes it worth buying? If I'm gonna have a full sized frame, then why not have the 4" barrel? And if I'm gonna have a 3" barrel, then why not have the officer frame? Just curious as to what you guys think?
I have to agree with your questions.
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Old 01-22-2011, 20:04   #4
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I work in a gunstore and range also own an ultra CDP 3" .Never heard of a full frame Ultra .There all officer sized frames .I just checked their product list & saw none listed. ??
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Old 01-22-2011, 23:52   #5
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Yeah news to me as well, have not seen this Kimber. DW made one and as mentioned Colt as well I believe. Kimber makes a compact frame with a 4" inch slide in place of the UC 3" slide.

Some folks think the slide length is harder to conceal other think the frame length is more an issue thus the shorter frames and the bobtail modification. I could see where those who think the frame length is more critical to concealing would want the short slide with regular frame. The shorter frames often leave a finger hanging off at the bottom.

For me the frame length is more of an issue than slide length.
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Old 01-23-2011, 00:01   #6
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I think its ridiculously stupid, quite honestly.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:33   #7
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For what...the loss in velocity, sight radius, accuracy, and balance?
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:39   #8
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I think it also goes back to somebody wanting to do something, anything different with the platform. After 100 years it is getting harder and harder to come up with something on a 1911 that has not been done before
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:50   #9
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Yeah, 3" barrel on a full size Gov't frame is just plain dumb if you ask me.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:40   #10
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It is called an Ultra "+" I guess if you have large hands you may like it.
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:43   #11
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Retarded concept. I have big hands and have no problem with the officer's frame.
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Old 01-23-2011, 15:39   #12
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I remember when Colt tried this concept. I never understood giving up everything that makes it shoot well, while keeping a full sized grip that's hard to conceal. Stupid.
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Old 01-23-2011, 15:43   #13
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I think its ridiculously stupid, quite honestly.
I couldn't agree more... WTF is the point in have a full sized grip on a 3" barrel!!! The grip is the part you have to try to conceal, not the barrel!!! Ridiculous...

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The full size grip with a 4" barrel is called the "Pro", Kimber's equivalent to the Commander. Here they're talking about a full grip with a 3" Ultra barrel. Stupid idea!
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The full size grip with a 4" barrel is called the "Pro", Kimber's equivalent to the Commander. Here they're talking about a full grip with a 3" Ultra barrel. Stupid idea!
OPE! Thanks for pointing out my typo... I meant to hit the 3 lol...
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Old 01-23-2011, 20:59   #16
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I work in a gunstore and range also own an ultra CDP 3" .Never heard of a full frame Ultra .There all officer sized frames .I just checked their product list & saw none listed. ??
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Yeah news to me as well, have not seen this Kimber. DW made one and as mentioned Colt as well I believe. Kimber makes a compact frame with a 4" inch slide in place of the UC 3" slide.

Some folks think the slide length is harder to conceal other think the frame length is more an issue thus the shorter frames and the bobtail modification. I could see where those who think the frame length is more critical to concealing would want the short slide with regular frame. The shorter frames often leave a finger hanging off at the bottom.

For me the frame length is more of an issue than slide length.
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The full size grip with a 4" barrel is called the "Pro", Kimber's equivalent to the Commander. Here they're talking about a full grip with a 3" Ultra barrel. Stupid idea!
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I couldn't agree more... WTF is the point in have a full sized grip on a 3" barrel!!! The grip is the part you have to try to conceal, not the barrel!!! Ridiculous...
Look at the inside cover of the latest March GUNS magazine, with a Kimber Super Carry Pro on the cover at the newstand now and get back with me. I don't print the Kimber ads. I just comment on them. No, it's not on their website, which is ALWAYS a year behind. While your at it, check out the back cover Kimber ad of the same magazine and look at the new Super Carry HD Pro and Custom, that are also NOT on their website.
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Old 01-23-2011, 21:23   #17
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http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/...S0311/?page=90

Click on the << button and go to thr cover with the CC Pro on it. The turn the page. Bingo.

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Old 01-23-2011, 21:43   #18
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Here you go guys. Crappy cell phone pic, but I don't make this stuff up guys.


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Here you go guys. Crappy cell phone pic, but I don't make this stuff up guys.


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All the draw backs of a 3 incher with the conceal-ability of a fullsize. Makes sense to me.
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