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Old 01-26-2011, 13:19   #21
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I like 165gr. Ranger Ts
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Old 01-26-2011, 13:20   #22
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I'm not an expert by any means but when I look at these links I don't see an advantage in 155/165 bullets.

http://le.atk.com/pdf/HSTInsertPoster.pdf

http://www.winchester.com/SiteCollec...law_bullit.swf
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Old 01-26-2011, 14:18   #23
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I'm not an expert by any means but when I look at these links I don't see an advantage in 155/165 bullets.

http://le.atk.com/pdf/HSTInsertPoster.pdf

http://www.winchester.com/SiteCollec...law_bullit.swf
Thanks for the links!
The last time I went thru this kind of "research", I ended up on 180 gr. This info solidifies that conclusion.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:02   #24
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i shoot the 180 gr. better, so thats all I use.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:06   #25
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180 gr. Winchester SXT for my carry ammo. I use WWB 180 gr. for target/practice ammo. I believe in if you train like you fight, you will fight like you train. I like keeping my training consistent, even when it come to ammo weight. I also prefer the heavier bullet for a bigger knockdown punch.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:10   #26
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For factory ammo I like 180gr JHP's but rarely shoot factory anymore. I really like a good 175gr LSWC in my G22. Makes a great range bullet and I would hate to be shot with one.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:12   #27
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Mods can we turn this thread into a poll? Its become more popular than I initially thought it would. Maybe word it something like "which do you prefer in .40S&W, 180gr. or 165gr.?"
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:20   #28
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155's (Gold Dots or Win Ranger or ST) in 27/23 and 165 (Win Ranger T) in 22/35 when carried for SD. Only carry 180 bonded in my 22 as a hunting back-up.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:35   #29
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165gr for winter carry and 135gr for summer carry.
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Old 01-26-2011, 15:38   #30
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When it comes down too it as far as man stopping power your aim, even millimeters is going to make more difference then 165gr vs 180gr in my opinion. So I'd shoot both and see which you can shoot better.

Assuming you shoot both equally and recoil is a none issue I come from the newer school of the faster moving lighter weight round vs slower but heavier round.

While that chart from Winchester is cool it leaves a lot of crucial testing out. Things like ballistic pressure wave, average incapacitation time, temporal stretch cavity, and etc.

Ballistic pressure wave which some call the effect hydrostatic shock is nearly always MUCH larger from a lighter weight but faster moving round.

As a comparison check out the chart at the midway thru this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG

You can see that the lighter the rounds are generally tested (accuracy I have no idea) to be more of a people stopper then the heavier.

Once again my opinion, shoot what you can shoot the best. I think we are splitting hairs here to begin with...
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Old 01-26-2011, 17:41   #31
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180 gr for me.

Most calibers I prefer the heavier grain projectiles.
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Old 01-26-2011, 17:49   #32
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180 consistently more accurate.
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Old 01-26-2011, 18:11   #33
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I'm carrying 135gr. Federalis!! I can get 50ct. boxes for what a 20ct. box of "Premium JHPs" cost. I don't really think there's a bad .40cal round....weeeeeeell there might be one...... EXTREME SHOCK!!! LOL! Winchester PDX-1's are reportedly giving 16+" of penetration w/ consistent uniform expansion!!

I've been stockpiling .40 cal ammo to feed my G23/G27 I have 135gr. Federal HSTs and 135 Winchester Ranger (non-T version) hey they were $13.95 screeeeaming BUY ME!!

I don't have a problem carrying either weight in .40 S&W, but do think that the weight and MORE IMPORTANTLY cross-sectional density would be helped out by lighter loads in my G27. Anybody feel the same way? Hornady would have all my ammo dollars if they sold 50ct. boxes of 155 gr. of their TAP line!!! XTP IS A PROVEN BULLET!!
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Old 01-26-2011, 18:18   #34
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I like the 165's, I agree with those that say it is a good combo or weight and velocity
Same here, 165g HST's in my G23 and G27
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:04   #35
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<---Federal HST 180's...I like the ability of the round to go deep and reach bone...hypothetically...
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:10   #36
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I prefer lighter bullets in a .40. I carry 135s mostly, but sometimes carry 155-165 grain loadings. I just don't feel the need for more penetration, and
I like the track record of the hot 135s.
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:12   #37
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I am starting to convert back to the 40 S&W. I like the 165 Gr. ammunition however, the 180 Gr. ammo has been spot on. The recoil is very soft and my follow up shots are fast and accurate.

So far I have not had a single issue with the 180 Gr. I am currently using Speer GDHP.

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Old 01-26-2011, 19:28   #38
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For the most part I carry 180gr, but every once in a while I pick up some 165gr boxes (especially if I find a sale).
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Old 01-26-2011, 20:05   #39
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180 gr for me.

Most calibers I prefer the heavier grain projectiles.
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180 consistently more accurate.
Yep 180 for me too.

For me it feels like it has less recoil and I shoot 180 more accurately.
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Old 01-26-2011, 20:10   #40
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I like 165gr. Ranger Ts
^^^ me too

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