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Old 01-26-2011, 14:10   #26
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For factory ammo I like 180gr JHP's but rarely shoot factory anymore. I really like a good 175gr LSWC in my G22. Makes a great range bullet and I would hate to be shot with one.
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Old 01-26-2011, 14:12   #27
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Mods can we turn this thread into a poll? Its become more popular than I initially thought it would. Maybe word it something like "which do you prefer in .40S&W, 180gr. or 165gr.?"
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Old 01-26-2011, 14:20   #28
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155's (Gold Dots or Win Ranger or ST) in 27/23 and 165 (Win Ranger T) in 22/35 when carried for SD. Only carry 180 bonded in my 22 as a hunting back-up.
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Old 01-26-2011, 14:35   #29
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165gr for winter carry and 135gr for summer carry.
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Old 01-26-2011, 14:38   #30
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When it comes down too it as far as man stopping power your aim, even millimeters is going to make more difference then 165gr vs 180gr in my opinion. So I'd shoot both and see which you can shoot better.

Assuming you shoot both equally and recoil is a none issue I come from the newer school of the faster moving lighter weight round vs slower but heavier round.

While that chart from Winchester is cool it leaves a lot of crucial testing out. Things like ballistic pressure wave, average incapacitation time, temporal stretch cavity, and etc.

Ballistic pressure wave which some call the effect hydrostatic shock is nearly always MUCH larger from a lighter weight but faster moving round.

As a comparison check out the chart at the midway thru this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG

You can see that the lighter the rounds are generally tested (accuracy I have no idea) to be more of a people stopper then the heavier.

Once again my opinion, shoot what you can shoot the best. I think we are splitting hairs here to begin with...
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Old 01-26-2011, 16:41   #31
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180 gr for me.

Most calibers I prefer the heavier grain projectiles.
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Old 01-26-2011, 16:49   #32
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180 consistently more accurate.
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Old 01-26-2011, 17:11   #33
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I'm carrying 135gr. Federalis!! I can get 50ct. boxes for what a 20ct. box of "Premium JHPs" cost. I don't really think there's a bad .40cal round....weeeeeeell there might be one...... EXTREME SHOCK!!! LOL! Winchester PDX-1's are reportedly giving 16+" of penetration w/ consistent uniform expansion!!

I've been stockpiling .40 cal ammo to feed my G23/G27 I have 135gr. Federal HSTs and 135 Winchester Ranger (non-T version) hey they were $13.95 screeeeaming BUY ME!!

I don't have a problem carrying either weight in .40 S&W, but do think that the weight and MORE IMPORTANTLY cross-sectional density would be helped out by lighter loads in my G27. Anybody feel the same way? Hornady would have all my ammo dollars if they sold 50ct. boxes of 155 gr. of their TAP line!!! XTP IS A PROVEN BULLET!!
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Old 01-26-2011, 17:18   #34
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I like the 165's, I agree with those that say it is a good combo or weight and velocity
Same here, 165g HST's in my G23 and G27
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Old 01-26-2011, 18:04   #35
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<---Federal HST 180's...I like the ability of the round to go deep and reach bone...hypothetically...
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Old 01-26-2011, 18:10   #36
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I prefer lighter bullets in a .40. I carry 135s mostly, but sometimes carry 155-165 grain loadings. I just don't feel the need for more penetration, and
I like the track record of the hot 135s.
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Old 01-26-2011, 18:12   #37
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I am starting to convert back to the 40 S&W. I like the 165 Gr. ammunition however, the 180 Gr. ammo has been spot on. The recoil is very soft and my follow up shots are fast and accurate.

So far I have not had a single issue with the 180 Gr. I am currently using Speer GDHP.

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Old 01-26-2011, 18:28   #38
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For the most part I carry 180gr, but every once in a while I pick up some 165gr boxes (especially if I find a sale).
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:05   #39
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180 gr for me.

Most calibers I prefer the heavier grain projectiles.
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180 consistently more accurate.
Yep 180 for me too.

For me it feels like it has less recoil and I shoot 180 more accurately.
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:10   #40
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I like 165gr. Ranger Ts
^^^ me too

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Old 01-26-2011, 19:16   #41
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Anyone ever try the DRT 105gr JHP? I just got in 200 rounds of these, i havent shot them yet. The reviews i see on them are all excellent.
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:18   #42
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165 grains for my G27 and G23!
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:23   #43
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155gr Gold dots in 23/27 year round,
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:29   #44
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I practice withe 165 FMJ. I shoot the 155 or 165 JHP. I like them better. There is not a drastic difference one way or the other. You can't really go wrong withe both. According to the chart below you get more velocity and muzzle energy in the 155 and 165 vs the 180.

http://www.ballistics101.com/40_caliber_sw.php
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:32   #45
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165 ranger Ts in my carry HK USP Compact and P-2000SK. I look at muzzle energy, and there is a big difference. Both weights shoot as well in my guns. The G-35 never gets carried so it gets what ever I have on hand to load for it. I am of the school that the shorter the barrel, the lighter the bullet to let it get up to speed, it's why we got the 110 jhps in 38/357 for snubbies years ago.....but in the end, what ever floats your boat, and what one can hit with....
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:33   #46
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Winchester PDX-1's are reportedly giving 16+" of penetration w/ consistent uniform expansion!!
Really? I got 100 of these in my stocking at xmas and wrote them off becuase of the weight. I might need to load a couple carry mags and shoot a few tests.
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Old 01-26-2011, 19:36   #47
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I'm happy with any quality 165 to 180 grain load in either my G22 or 23.
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Old 01-26-2011, 20:01   #48
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I carry 135g Federal HST. They come in an inconspicuous black and grey box and I didint even know they were HST. $23 at walmart for 50.
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Old 01-26-2011, 20:45   #49
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I prefer 180's because I shoot them better. Occassionally I'll dabble in 155's and 165's. Lately it is the Winchester. bonded 180 grain PDX1.

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Old 01-26-2011, 21:20   #50
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I have a friend in the US Marshals Service who is also a 5-gun IDPA Master class shooter. Don't know how long he's been with the USMS but I would guess his age at mid 40s, so he's been around the horn. He also reloads.

I asked him the same question (and a bunch of others on several occasions) and he says most of the federal LEOs use 180-grain rounds in all their .40s, no matter if they are compact, subcompact or full size. He says the entire .40 caliber platform was designed for the 180-grain bullet and I trust his memory and experience more than my research and sketchy knowledge base.
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