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Old 02-05-2011, 14:41   #1
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Pump-action vs semi-auto shotguns for HD

I personally would rather have a good reliable semi-auto SG.

Anyone here agree.
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Old 02-05-2011, 14:44   #2
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I'll take my benelli all day. I'm spoiled though. There is nothing wrong with a pump but I'm used to a semi.
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Old 02-05-2011, 14:45   #3
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But then you can't do that Sarah Connor one-hand pump thing.
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Old 02-05-2011, 14:51   #4
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bedside is a Mossberg 500 18.5" barrel, and a G20
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Old 02-05-2011, 14:57   #5
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I have a pump gun but have been re-evaluating recently.
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Old 02-05-2011, 14:59   #6
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But then you can't do that Sarah Connor one-hand pump thing.
Not just that, but I heard that the BG always gets scared and runs away at the sound of the pump racking.
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:04   #7
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:08   #8
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I would take either.

That said, when I was shopping for a home defense gun I got a deal on a bubba'd Remington 1100 that I could not turn down.

I was plannign on buying a Winchester or Mossy pump before stumbling on the gun I bought.

I replaced the seals and orings, gave it a good cleaning and lube...and I am comfortable with it.

YMMV
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:09   #9
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My only experience with a shotgun was shooting 00 buck through a Remington 870 during a familiarization session that lasted about 2 hours.

However, I've always thought for SD/HD the semi-auto shotgun would have an advantage in that it can be fired one-handed. One hand could be injured, opening/closing a door, guiding a child to a safe room, etc. But I've read people with a lot more experience recommending the pump. Maybe someone could clear this up?
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:10   #10
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:11   #11
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I'll take a pump gun over a semi-auto. I honestly don't know how reliable semi-auto shotguns are, but shotgun shells don't necessarily make it easy to design a reliable semi-auto system. Not to mention the pressure differences between 00 Buck and bird shot for example. I think most cops and even the military still use the Mossberg or Remington pump guns, so I figure what's good enough for them should be good enough for me.
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:12   #12
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Not just that, but I heard that the BG always gets scared and runs away at the sound of the pump racking.
Hopefully, they can't run very far after they hear the first "BOOM!!!! chick-chack".

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My only experience with a shotgun was shooting 00 buck through a Remington 870 during a familiarization session that lasted about 2 hours.

However, I've always thought for SD/HD the semi-auto shotgun would have an advantage in that it can be fired one-handed. One hand could be injured, opening/closing a door, guiding a child to a safe room, etc. But I've read people with a lot more experience recommending the pump. Maybe someone could clear this up?
Pumps are considered more reliable, though I've yet to experience a failure with a Saiga 12.
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Old 02-05-2011, 15:12   #13
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Semi is preferable if its reliable.
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:01   #14
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Hopefully, they can't run very far after they hear the first "BOOM!!!! chick-chack".
You're doing it wrong, you are supposed to pump it first so you look bad ass. Movies couldn't get it wrong.
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:03   #15
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You're doing it wrong, you are supposed to pump it first so you look bad ass. Movies couldn't get it wrong.
Damn. I knew I wasn't doing something right.
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:04   #16
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Whichever one makes the loudest cycling action sound. Period. HH
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:20   #17
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You're doing it wrong, you are supposed to pump it first so you look bad ass. Movies couldn't get it wrong.
I don't keep a round chambered, but not because I want to scare the intruder by racking the slide. I just don't think that shotguns are necessarily drop safe. Although the sound of a shell being loudly chambered would certainly make me think twice about going forward.

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Old 02-05-2011, 16:21   #18
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Many moons ago as a poor recently discharged vet, I had a local smith shorten the barrel on my 20 ga Franchi model 48. Well, I've long since purchased several barrels in different chokes. But, it is still used with that shortened barrel as our "home defense" shotgun.

My wife is petit and while she can shoot a 12 ga, it isn't comfortable. In typical indoor distances, that 20 ga with #4 buck should deal with any threat.

On the other hand, my "Jeep gun" is a Mossy 500 in .410. I'm sure it would work for "home defense" with the right loads. So really, it comes down to whatever you prefer.
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:24   #19
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I've grown up on pumps and double barrels, and don't feel undergunned whatsoever in a home encounter, although as long as a semi-auto runs reliably it can't be at a disadvantage to the previous two... I have a few doubles, and bunches of pumps but a nice 18.5-20" barelled high cap semi-auto would be a welcomed addition...
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Old 02-05-2011, 16:25   #20
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I'm too cheap to have anything but a couple of pump shotguns. A Mossberg 500 and a Remington 870. If I get enough "gun money" put back to buy a great semi-automatic shotgun, I'll most likely go buy a Sig pistol or something.
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I don't keep a round chambered, but not because I want to scare the intruder by racking the slide. I just don't think that shotguns are necessarily drop safe. Although think what you will, but the sound of a shell being loudly chambered will certainly make me think twice about going forward.
Cut all the shot and powder out of a shell, chamber it, then drop the thing a few hundred times. Pound it against the wall. See if that primer gets spent. Unless your shotgun is junk, it won't.
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Old 02-05-2011, 17:17   #22
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Tactical Shotguns

How about a Saiga12. Based on the tried and true AK47, chambered in 12GA. What could be more reliable?

Wife's side of the bed is the Rem 870. She prefers the harder kick, lets her know she has shot something.
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Old 02-05-2011, 17:36   #23
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After watching Hicock today, I might go for the pump. There's very little 9 rounds of 12ga won't solve. Specifically, I might go for a 590A1 in 21". Wow!

My desire for a massive mag change (Saiga) is a pipe dream. I don't shoot 3-gun. I'm getting more practical as I get older. ????
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Old 02-05-2011, 17:46   #24
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A Benelli or Beretta Semi-auto would be the ideal choice for me.
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Old 02-05-2011, 18:22   #25
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I prefer a semi-auto. If you're in my house uninvited you get no warning from me. Although there are some new pump guns out there that are interesting.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/pr...ec-shotgun-ksg
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