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Old 03-09-2011, 11:14   #1
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Race guns

Was watching last night's "Top Shot", which featured the Razorcat Race gun (JJ Laraza's gun). Looked really cool and fun and got me the idea of one day picking up an open-class gun (not necessarily this one though, depending on the price).

So anyone here own one or at least picked one up and fired it a few times? If not the Razorcat specifically, who here owns open-class guns?
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:45   #2
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Whats your budget? Are you interested in just buying one or would you prefer to put together your own?

You can put together your own open class Glock pretty easily, but if you have your heart set on a 2011 style race gun be prepared to spend $$$$

Do you just want to own one for fun or would you like to compete with it?
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:46   #3
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Infinity makes the best race guns, in my opinion.




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Old 03-09-2011, 12:07   #4
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Race guns...Race cars...Race boats...("Race" women)...
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:45   #6
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I found that you can buy EAA Witness Gold Cup Champ for about 1600-ish, which gets you the gun w/ compensated barrel and drilled/tapped. Toss a C-more for another 200 and it's getting close. Granted, it's probably not a true race gun, but it wouldn't be a bad shooter.

I currently own a Glock 34 for production competition; not sure what it would cost or what would be needed to convert it. The only mods to it right now are fiber optic front/rear sights.
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Old 03-09-2011, 16:03   #7
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Old 03-09-2011, 16:15   #8
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i have or had a lot of Open Glocks and a custom 2011 9mm. unless you're really into shooting Open it's a lot of work getting one tuned and running at 100%.
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I was tempted to fancy up my old G22 but the economy is kicking my but at the moment -it may happen this summer.
I got to shoot a 1911 that was tricked out-OHHH how fun it was
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Razorcat or any top notch race gun is going to run you 8 to 9 k
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Add to that about ten mags at $60+tuning a pop that are probably only going to be used on that one gun unless you get a passion for the 2011 platform.
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I know open guys that have $200 apiece in mags. Open class can easily cost 6-7 grand with everything.
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What are the distinguishing features that separate top-notch race guns like the Razorcat or the Infinity guns and other "lesser" guns like the CZ Czechmate or the EAA Witness Gold Cup? Both types of guns have compensators, optics, enlarged magwells, and in most cases, tuned trigger jobs. So what makes the former worth the extra $5K (give or take), given that I'd guess the latter group wouldn't be necessarily poor performers either.
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:31   #14
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my 9mm 2011 mags would be in the 200$ range. my .40 Limited mags are around 100$. it gets expensive fast playing gun games. i still perfer the .40 1911 in SingleStack over anything else. i'm comited to shooting a Open Glock this year but I think after this season i'll go back to the 1911.
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What are the distinguishing features that separate top-notch race guns like the Razorcat or the Infinity guns and other "lesser" guns like the CZ Czechmate or the EAA Witness Gold Cup? Both types of guns have compensators, optics, enlarged magwells, and in most cases, tuned trigger jobs. So what makes the former worth the extra $5K (give or take), given that I'd guess the latter group wouldn't be necessarily poor performers either.
I can't say for sure, but I would guess alot of hand tuning, extensive accuracy work, with a bit of flare.
Basically anything that can be possibly enhanced will be. As opposed to the production guns, that are, well... production. Production guns that get popped out of a cnc machine. Maybe twice check by a QA guy, then the factory tossed on a compensator along with a few other odds and ends.
Like I said not 100% sure but I'd bet I'm not far off
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Race guns can sure be a blast. I've had several over the years. Still have 3, an SV, Caspain, and Springfield. The SV and Caspian were built from the ground up by EGW, back in the day when EGW built guns.

If you're just trying to break in, used Caspians can sometimes be found for good deals. My Caspian was my main (and only) competition gun for a few years. It has over 100K through it and still runs pretty good today. Caspians are also a little easier to work on, IMO.

Yeah they can be pricey, but to shoot one is to understand why.

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Was watching last night's "Top Shot", which featured the Razorcat Race gun (JJ Laraza's gun). Looked really cool and fun and got me the idea of one day picking up an open-class gun (not necessarily this one though, depending on the price).

So anyone here own one or at least picked one up and fired it a few times? If not the Razorcat specifically, who here owns open-class guns?

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In my opinion a good shooter will do just as well with a tricked out open Glock or EAA as with a 2011. I see no need to spend the extra thousands.
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I love modified raceguns...though there are not as many competitors here.
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Those are some sexy looking guns for sure.
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