Why carry with a round in the chamber...

Quack · 03-16-2011, 20:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxrpLbaEuY

glock2740 · 03-16-2011, 20:59

Very good video Quack.

Hokie1911 · 03-16-2011, 21:22

Condition1 FTW.

cole · 03-16-2011, 21:41

Illustrative video. Seems odd anyone needs to see it to understand the concept. Buy the gun you feel comfortable chambered. Period.

quantico · 03-16-2011, 21:43

Are those the only video chunks she is in? In any case I was always a believer, that is just more evidence. She could have had two more seconds if she started screaming about the wasp on his head while drawing.

Quack · 03-16-2011, 21:44

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Originally Posted by cole

Illustrative video. Seems odd anyone needs to see it to understand the concept. Buy the gun you feel comfortable chambered. Period.

yep, but there are some out there that carry with an empty chamber and say that they can chamber a round fairly quickly, this video shows otherwise.

Quack · 03-16-2011, 21:45

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Originally Posted by quantico

Are those the only video chunks she is in? In any case I was always a believer, that is just more evidence. She could have had two more seconds if she started screaming about the wasp on his head while drawing.

???

She's on the forum, but i can't think of her screen name.

Edit: her screen name is lima.

now if my logic is correct, i think she is from/lives in Lima, OH, since she is good friends with an Instructor @ TDI (which is also in Ohio)

cole · 03-16-2011, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Quack

yep, but there are some out there that carry with an empty chamber and say that they can chamber a round fairly quickly, this video shows otherwise.

Agreed. And, IMO, those are the same people that think the defensive encounters they imagine are the only ones they'll encouter.

Cerebrus · 03-16-2011, 21:50

Anything within 20 ft is waaay too close....

cole · 03-16-2011, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Cerebrus

Anything within 20 ft is waaay too close....

Definately. I remember it this way: 21<1.2. That's 21 feet closure in less than 1.2 seconds from stationary. And, coincidentally, 1.2 seconds is on the fast end of reaction time. Discussion.

Cobra64 · 03-16-2011, 22:30

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Originally Posted by cole

Definately. I remember it this way: 21<1.2. That's 21 feet closure in less than 1.2 seconds from stationary. And, coincidentally, 1.2 seconds is on the fast end of reaction time. Discussion.

Ah, you know about Dennis Tueller.

***faawrenchbndr*** · 03-17-2011, 04:21

I still can not understand why she let a guy in a hockey mask that close to her?!

I mean dang,.......everyone ran from Jason, she didn't even scream when she saw him!

TSAX · 03-17-2011, 04:24

Excellent video

pnutcar · 03-17-2011, 04:27

For a very new shooter/carrier, this is pretty powerful. Right now I carry a 17+0, just to get used to it, but cocked and locked while in the glove box.

j-glock22 · 03-17-2011, 04:52

Thats a real eye opener.....

drc767 · 03-17-2011, 05:55

And it looks like she knows what she is doing, too. Think of how much worse it would be for somebody that has no training in drawing their weapon under stress.

carloglock19 · 03-17-2011, 06:24

I haven't seen that video! That does make you think how quick things can go in a bad situation!

***BuckyP*** · 03-17-2011, 06:36

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Originally Posted by cole

Illustrative video. Seems odd anyone needs to see it to understand the concept. Buy the gun you feel comfortable chambered. Period.

This. Some people get so married to a brand (GLOCK) or type of gun (1911) that they can't see past this. If you are not comfortable carrying either of these in their quickest safe method of deployment, then it's time to move on to a true DA (hammer fully down) auto or a revolver.
$.02

Ruble Noon · 03-17-2011, 06:37

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Originally Posted by Quack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxrpLbaEuY

Someone should post this in the Carry Issues forum. Could be an epic thread with all of the Israeli carry proponents in there.

svtpwnz · 03-17-2011, 06:39

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Originally Posted by carloglock19

I haven't seen that video! That does make you think how quick things can go in a bad situation!

+1 SHTF really fast for sure!

carloglock19 · 03-17-2011, 06:43

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Originally Posted by Ruble Noon

Someone should post this in the Carry Issues forum. Could be an epic thread with all of the Israeli carry proponents in there.

That's a good idea! I don't know how many times that topic comes up and you always have the guy that says "I don't need one in the chamber I can use my martial arts to protect myself" or "I can chamber a round really fast"!

Ruble Noon · 03-17-2011, 06:57

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Originally Posted by carloglock19

That's a good idea! I don't know how many times that topic comes up and you always have the guy that says "I don't need one in the chamber I can use my martial arts to protect myself" or "I can chamber a round really fast"!

Yeah, I have conversed with the guy that assures me that he can draw his gun and chamber a round with one hand while fending off an attacker with the other.

Captain Caveman · 03-17-2011, 07:45

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Originally Posted by cole

Definately. I remember it this way: 21<1.2. That's 21 feet closure in less than 1.2 seconds from stationary. And, coincidentally, 1.2 seconds is on the fast end of reaction time. Discussion.

Just went through weapons and tactics recert two weeks ago. The new standard is 35ft.

Beware Owner · 03-17-2011, 07:52

That close and it's time to get real nervous real quick.

TKR Reptiles · 03-17-2011, 08:36

Let me start by saying I 100% believe you should carry with one in the chamber. A unloaded gun is a useless gun.

BUT! That video is kind of, well... Let's just say "inaccurate" a little bit to be nice. "I can not draw until presented with a clear threat". If there someone coming at you with his hand under his shirt, that is a threat. Especially if you are a woman (no sexism meant). You should have already had your gun drawn, and the second he made a step toward you he should have been put on the ground with brain matter beside him. If there is someone within 21 feet of you acting aggressive toward you and making you feel uncomfortable or threatened, draw your firearm and tell them if they don't want it to go off, they need to step the F back.