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Old 07-16-2014, 18:51   #1
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Glock 20 carry Ammo

Iam looking to carry my Glock 20sf for edc. What grain and what brand would be effective but not to over powering?

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Old 07-16-2014, 19:11   #2
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Nothing under powering. when I carry a 10 millimeter it is for the extra penetrating(or as I call it not under penetrating). For mi it's DT 180gr GD's
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Old 07-16-2014, 19:38   #3
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I think that pretty much ANY 165/1200 or 180/1200+ fps would be just dandy. Make sure you can shoot quickly and accurately with whatever load you choose. And make sure that load is reliable in your pistol.

I think I have Hornady FlexLock 175gr factory in my G20.... for legal reasons. Silvertips are a great choice, too, as are Gold Dots.
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Old 07-16-2014, 19:55   #4
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I think that pretty much ANY 165/1200 or 180/1200+ fps would be just dandy. Make sure you can shoot quickly and accurately with whatever load you choose. And make sure that load is reliable in your pistol.

I think I have Hornady FlexLock 175gr factory in my G20.... for legal reasons. Silvertips are a great choice, too, as are Gold Dots.
I agree.

I make my own, I prefer 180gr+ bullets traveling above 1100fps. For those that don't reload or want factory loads for other reasons, I think any quality 180gr JHP load in that velocity range should work.

As NickE10mm points out, it is far more important you shoot the round well and it cycles in your gun flawlessly, more than any specific terminal ballistics profile. They all provide plenty of stopping power for two legged adversaries.
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Old 07-17-2014, 06:29   #5
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IMO a good carry round would be in the 135-155 range, i would save the 180's for woods carry.
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Old 07-17-2014, 18:51   #6
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I understand Police Departments that use 10mm have had very good results with Winchester Silvertips (factory). Unfortunately I haven't seen any in about a year. Read somewhere that they'll be making a run of them this fall. Until then I'm using Hornady Critical Duty.
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Old 07-17-2014, 19:35   #7
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I carry Silvertips for legal reasons. Plus its a very capable round.
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Old 07-17-2014, 22:27   #8
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I carry Silvertips for legal reasons. Plus its a very capable round.
Legal reasons?
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Old 07-18-2014, 05:02   #9
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I carry Silvertips for legal reasons. Plus its a very capable round.
I carry Silvertips too but, legal reasons? Nah. They were the most powerful rounds I could find at the store and they function well in my gun. What legal reasons might you be referring to?
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:01   #10
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Montana Gold 165 JHP over 9.5 gr of longshot, Yup!
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Old 07-18-2014, 18:53   #11
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180g GD or XTP from Underwood
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Old 07-18-2014, 20:23   #12
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i carry mine with 200 gr xtp from underwood.
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Old 07-18-2014, 20:27   #13
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I load my own. Oklahoma does not give a rats butt what load I use. It is very clear in the law dog books. As long as it's .45 cal or under and not a LEO only load. And no poison in the hollow point wax capped, I'm good to go.

155gn XTP's/GD's in the summer and 180gn XTP's/GD's in the winter. I scored 1K 155gn Gold Dots three months ago. G20 is stoked with nuke load 155gn Gold Dots right now that are wicked. Have 500 of the 155gn GD's left. I must find more.
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Old 07-18-2014, 21:50   #14
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I really like 155-165gr bullets loaded hot, but not nuclear for personal defense. The 180gr loads often over penetrate in the 10mm.

I carry 165gr Gold Dots loaded to around 1325fps. The nuke Underwood stuff starts to come apart at velocities higher than 1325fps.
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I personally like the 135gr. @ 1,600 fps from Underwoood. depending on what you think you might encounter this is a great round for defense human on most four legged unrban attackers.

DT makes this round as well, though I've read numerous reports that lately their ammo has been watered down from what they claim on the box flap.
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IMO a good carry round would be in the 135-155 range, i would save the 180's for woods carry.
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I also prefer a lighter bullet in 10mm...
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Old 07-23-2014, 05:14   #17
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My long-held opinion, of course, ... but given the always possible risk of intermediate barriers, which in cold weather can include items of clothing like denim, leather, and/or other bulky, layered gear, I generally don't EDC any 10mm HP slugs lighter than 180gns. In winter it's now always some make of 200gn ammo loaded to real 10mm velocities.

In the past, for summertime carry, two exceptions were (1) DT's older 165gn Golden Saber load just because it was so darn accurate out of my G29, and (2) GA's 155gn Gold Dot load for the same reason and because I once had about 1500rds of it.

Another possibility is: if I lived in a thin-walled apartment complex or condo in a densely-populated urban area, and was hyper about possible "overpenetration" in that environment, I might consider something like DT's 135gn Nosler load. McNett specifically engineered this load to fragment "nastily" after about 8 or 9 inches of penetration without punching thru the target.

But that daily social situation is not mine, so for EDC I prefer one of the "heavy & fast," old-school factory loads.

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Old 07-23-2014, 11:31   #18
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I'd go with the Hornady 165 gr critical duty or 175 gr critical defense rounds. I like Hornady ammo, as it's American made, reliable, and well priced. Of the two, probably the 175 grain for a little more weight. I think Cabela's is the only one that sells it though. HPR hyperclean shot really nice out of my glock 29 too.
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I'd go with the Hornady 165 gr critical duty or 175 gr critical defense rounds. I like Hornady ammo, as it's American made, reliable, and well priced. Of the two, probably the 175 grain for a little more weight. I think Cabela's is the only one that sells it though. HPR hyperclean shot really nice out of my glock 29 too.
Hornady does make excellent ammo in many calibers.

In 10mm their best load is still the 180gn XTP @ 1180fps. In 5" guns, like a Delta or Smith 1006, it may actually exceed 1200fps, according to some chronograph reports.

Way back in the day, when Hornady's 200gn XTP was spec-ed @ 1150fps, that was their best factory load, and I recall thinking it was actually hotter than that out of my stock blue DE.

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Old 07-24-2014, 11:39   #20
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I think that pretty much ANY 165/1200 or 180/1200+ fps would be just dandy. Make sure you can shoot quickly and accurately with whatever load you choose. And make sure that load is reliable in your pistol.

I think I have Hornady FlexLock 175gr factory in my G20.... for legal reasons. Silvertips are a great choice, too, as are Gold Dots.
This is almost exactly what I came here to post. In my own informal tests, almost every JHP that weighed at least 165 grains and was moving at least 1,200 fps did well. Some did a little better than others, but even projectiles that are known for sup-par performance in other calibers (Montana Gold, for example) have done really well in 10mm.

If you really need someone to recommend a factory personal protection load, I'd concur that the Cabela's exclusive Hornady 175 gr Critical Duty and Silvertips are both great. For a trail/woods load, try Federal's new 180 gr JSP, Underwood 200 gr XTP, or a 220 gr hard cast from Underwood, Buffalo Bore, etc.

The only thing I wouldn't recommend is Double Tap because they lie about their velocity.
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