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04-09-2011, 02:36
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Bath Salts
A while back our city passed an ordinance outlawing "fake weed", ie K2. Now, I am reading about the rise in popularity of bath salts. Have any cities passed ordinances outlawing them? If so, can you post info about that city. I would like to proposs a similar ordinance with my town, and it would be easier if I could duplicate the efforts of another city.
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04-09-2011, 07:08
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No but get it done its actually KILLED a few kids around here.
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04-09-2011, 07:53
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No ordinance here either, but its getting more and more popular.
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04-09-2011, 07:56
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It's not nice to mess with mother nature or her program of natural selection.
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04-09-2011, 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoon44
It's not nice to mess with mother nature or her program of natural selection.
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So this is the post that did it!!!!!!!!
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And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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04-09-2011, 19:03
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So this is the post that did it!!!!!!!!
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Nah, Sgt.127 squeaked by me for the last post before CT disappeared.
Sgts. are sneaky like that.
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04-09-2011, 19:25
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04-09-2011, 19:49
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We had such a sudden and large influx of it almost overnight. Within a few weeks the Gov. used his "special" powers and bypassed legislation and made it illegal.
http://http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=13795795
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04-09-2011, 21:22
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Force Science is doing a research project on this.
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04-09-2011, 23:05
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Several counties in my area have passed ordinances against bath salts.
Lot's of incidents involving people on bath salts here lately.
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04-10-2011, 11:56
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We got a briefing on it 6 months ago... that was the last I heard of it.
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Cool story, bro... when do you get to the part where you shut up and walk away from me?
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04-10-2011, 12:04
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I don't know of any local cities or counties banning it here but here is an EMS article about it that could help further the cause.
http://www.emsworld.com/print/EMS-Wo...o-Know/1$16562
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04-10-2011, 12:41
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I think it's a pretty sure bet that anyone that would lick a frog to get high WILL find some other kind of poison to kill themselves with. Outlawing this, that, and the other is a losing game.
Are they planning to form a "bathtub enforcement" department or will it just go hand-in-hand with the "dripping faucet" enforcement? 
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04-10-2011, 13:16
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Originally Posted by CBennett
No but get it done its actually KILLED a few kids around here.
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Darwinism at its finest. You cant protect every stupid person on the planet.
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04-10-2011, 13:29
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Originally Posted by EOD3
I think it's a pretty sure bet that anyone that would lick a frog to get high WILL find some other kind of poison to kill themselves with. Outlawing this, that, and the other is a losing game.
Are they planning to form a "bathtub enforcement" department or will it just go hand-in-hand with the "dripping faucet" enforcement? |
I'll volunteer to be the inspector at the Playboy Mansion. 
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Cool story, bro... when do you get to the part where you shut up and walk away from me?
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04-10-2011, 16:17
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I'll volunteer to be the inspector at the Playboy Mansion. |
I suppose there are worse things. 
My ticker ain't what it used to be, I'd never make it out alive. 
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Just my blood alcohol content...
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04-11-2011, 08:53
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Originally Posted by EOD3
I think it's a pretty sure bet that anyone that would lick a frog to get high WILL find some other kind of poison to kill themselves with. Outlawing this, that, and the other is a losing game.
Are they planning to form a "bathtub enforcement" department or will it just go hand-in-hand with the "dripping faucet" enforcement? |
You do understand that "bath salts" does not involve the use of actual bath salt (although it is sometimes labeled as such), but rather a synthetic hallucinogen called methylenedioxypyrovalerone, right?
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04-11-2011, 09:16
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Originally Posted by glock_19guy1983
Darwinism at its finest. You cant protect every stupid person on the planet.
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yeah, but kids are kids...one kid gets in with some friends and peer pressure takes over and the kid does something dumb which may be his first and last time doing it..I have no problem with full time idiots knocking themselves off but its the kids that make 1 mistake which is their last over wanting to be "in"/Popular or what ever... that still bugs me.
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04-11-2011, 11:24
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Originally Posted by CBennett
yeah, but kids are kids...one kid gets in with some friends and peer pressure takes over and the kid does something dumb which may be his first and last time doing it..I have no problem with full time idiots knocking themselves off but its the kids that make 1 mistake which is their last over wanting to be "in"/Popular or what ever... that still bugs me.
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04-12-2011, 00:54
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Originally Posted by DaBigBR
You do understand that "bath salts" does not involve the use of actual bath salt (although it is sometimes labeled as such), but rather a synthetic hallucinogen called methylenedioxypyrovalerone, right?
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No, I don't... Try to remember, I'm from the "Killer Weed" and "Reefer Madness" generation. Most of the stuff the current crop of kids deal with either didn't exist or was unknown in most of the US the last time I was checking pockets for "contraband". 
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04-12-2011, 08:58
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Originally Posted by EOD3
No, I don't... Try to remember, I'm from the "Killer Weed" and "Reefer Madness" generation. Most of the stuff the current crop of kids deal with either didn't exist or was unknown in most of the US the last time I was checking pockets for "contraband". |
I gotcha.
Might want to read up on K2 ("spice") and "bath salts" if you have some spare time. This synthetic stuff is pretty nasty.
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04-12-2011, 09:14
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Made illegal by the legislature this last session. Good call.
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04-12-2011, 11:27
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Related, but not really...wasn't there some kind of "bath salt" used in suicides by creating a concoction that released H2S recently trending in from Japan?
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04-12-2011, 11:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CBennett
yeah, but kids are kids...one kid gets in with some friends and peer pressure takes over and the kid does something dumb which may be his first and last time doing it..I have no problem with full time idiots knocking themselves off but its the kids that make 1 mistake which is their last over wanting to be "in"/Popular or what ever... that still bugs me.
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While it bothers me too, but whats stopping that same kid from taking a hit of crack, weed, injecting heroin, sniffing glue, gas.. ect?
There is no lack if already illegal substances out there to kill yourself with.
The best solution is good judgement taught from good parenting, not by outlawing things.
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04-12-2011, 12:02
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Originally Posted by QuietCarry
Related, but not really...wasn't there some kind of "bath salt" used in suicides by creating a concoction that released H2S recently trending in from Japan?
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They were using a combination of household chemicals to make hydrogen sulfide gas.
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