military brass question

TEXGLK22 · 04-25-2011, 20:24

Please forgive me if this has been covered in another thread, I was unable to find it in a search.

I am new to reloading and am looking into once fired military brass in .223. I understand that you can remove the crimp with primer pocket tools. I have a case chamferer. Would this remove it or would I need another tool? If no what do I need?

Thanks in advance,

TEX

Zombie Steve · 04-25-2011, 20:26

If you're doing a bunch, Dillon makes a swager:

http://www.dillonprecision.com/conte...uper_Swage_600

Seems expensive until you try to do a ton with hand tools.

EL_NinO619 · 04-25-2011, 20:37

Reamer may not work and open up the PP to much, then the brass will be useless. I use this and on my first run on the RCBS trim mate i Chamfur, deburr, clean PP and then use a Hornady PP uniformer.

Tom in Arizona · 04-25-2011, 21:17

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Originally Posted by TEXGLK22

Please forgive me if this has been covered in another thread, I was unable to find it in a search.

I am new to reloading and am looking into once fired military brass in .223. I understand that you can remove the crimp with primer pocket tools. I have a case chamferer. Would this remove it or would I need another tool? If no what do I need?

Thanks in advance,

TEX

Yes, that will work and cut the primer crimp off rather than pushing it aside. I have done a whole lot like that setting it up in a hand drill or electric screw driver.

PCJim · 04-25-2011, 21:35

It will work, or so I hear. Haven't done it myself. You will have to be careful that you don't over chamfer the pocket. A reamer, such as the Hornady reamer, is designed to put a proper chamfer on the pocket and is designed so as to bottom out before removing too much material (or so I found). I've since moved to the Dillon unit - processing a quantity of brass on a reamer will tire your hands after a while.

EL_NinO619 · 04-25-2011, 21:48

Forgot to add link. I use the RCBS swager combo, under 40 bucks

Boxerglocker · 04-25-2011, 21:55

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Originally Posted by PCJim

It will work, or so I hear. Haven't done it myself. You will have to be careful that you don't over chamfer the pocket. A reamer, such as the Hornady reamer, is designed to put a proper chamfer on the pocket and is designed so as to bottom out before removing too much material (or so I found). I've since moved to the Dillon unit - processing a quantity of brass on a reamer will tire your hands after a while.

The Dillon Swager is one purchase I do not regret at all spending the money on. I just got mine mounted on a board to do this mod to make it got even quicker. I'll then clamp it to my bench so I can remove it out of the way when not needed.

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DoctaGlockta · 04-26-2011, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Boxerglocker

The Dillon Swager is one purchase I do not regret at all spending the money on. I just got mine mounted on a board to do this mod to make it got even quicker. I'll then clamp it to my bench so I can remove it out of the way when not needed.

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That is sweet. Well done.

labdwakin · 04-26-2011, 03:35

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Originally Posted by Boxerglocker

The Dillon Swager is one purchase I do not regret at all spending the money on. I just got mine mounted on a board to do this mod to make it got even quicker. I'll then clamp it to my bench so I can remove it out of the way when not needed.

Nicely done, BG.

MrOldLude · 04-26-2011, 07:40

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Originally Posted by TEXGLK22

I am new to reloading and am looking into once fired military brass in .223.

I buy my military brass from here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=7&f=114&page=1

Most of the people selling will sell it either sell it to you unprocessed, or for a few bucks more totally process it. The cost of the extra processing was worth it to me since I don't feel like chamfering or buying a swager for a couple thousand cases.

Boxerglocker · 04-26-2011, 08:41

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Originally Posted by MrOldLude

I buy my military brass from here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=7&f=114&page=1

Most of the people selling will sell it either sell it to you unprocessed, or for a few bucks more totally process it. The cost of the extra processing was worth it to me since I don't feel like chamfering or buying a swager for a couple thousand cases.

There is one gentleman in particular on AR15 dot come does a really good job. One of the guys at our matches bought from him once to get started with brass to load. He sells it $105 per 1020 pieces shipped to your door via USPS flat rate box. Cleaning in stainless steel media, sized, swaged and trimmed. The going rate is about $65-75 a K unprocessed so and extra $30-40 isn't really too bad. I thought about it myself but got all my 4-5k peices of brass either for free or trades for .40/.45 brass I had stashed away.

Bob2223 · 04-26-2011, 08:55

I've used the RCBS for years not fast but it works.
And it was cheap 10-12 years ago.
The Dillon is a lot nicer and faster just depends on how much you need to do ?

Bob

Tom in Arizona · 04-26-2011, 09:14

I have also "used" that RCBS swaging tool for decades and I hate it!

The case gets stuck on the swaging end and it takes a lot of force to get it off, even with an extended press handle.

It also often does not take the crimp back enough.

Aslo if you don't have the case stop rod adjusted correctly it will bend.

The Dillon appears to be a much better idea.