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Old 06-06-2011, 04:13   #26
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I would like to see some chronograph data with the LC9 and some more popular available modern factory ammo such as WWB 115 grain, Speer Gold Dot 124 +P short barrel, etc.
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I would like to see some chronograph data with the LC9 and some more popular available modern factory ammo such as WWB 115 grain, Speer Gold Dot 124 +P short barrel, etc.
I don't think the WinUSA 115's would be enough different than the Win 115 STHP and the Fed 115 JHP to be worth testing. I do have some and it is possible that I would have them and the RemUMC 115's and my LCP and chrono at the outdoor range at the same time. Don't hold your breath, but I will try to get it done.

The 124+P GDHP are a long shot since I don't have any and likely won't buy any.
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Old 06-06-2011, 16:13   #28
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I don't think the WinUSA 115's would be enough different than the Win 115 STHP and the Fed 115 JHP to be worth testing. I do have some and it is possible that I would have them and the RemUMC 115's and my LCP and chrono at the outdoor range at the same time. Don't hold your breath, but I will try to get it done.

The 124+P GDHP are a long shot since I don't have any and likely won't buy any.
We certainly appreciate you sharing the results you have and any future chronograph results posted are appreciated as well.
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Old 06-06-2011, 19:00   #29
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Did a little chrony with my LC9 yesterday. These are Avg. of 5 shots

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.0gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 845
A: 850
A: 846

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.5gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 884
A: 884
A: 892
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Did a little chrony with my LC9 yesterday. These are Avg. of 5 shots

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.0gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 845
A: 850
A: 846

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.5gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 884
A: 884
A: 892
Good deal. 4.5 is over the old Hercules booklet I have.
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Did a little chrony with my LC9 yesterday. These are Avg. of 5 shots

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.0gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 845
A: 850
A: 846

147gr Xtreme Plated
4.5gr of Unique
OAL 1.115"

A: 884
A: 884
A: 892
Looks like going from 4.0 grains to 4.5 grains of Unique is getting to the point of diminishing returns in the short barrel.
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Old 06-07-2011, 19:39   #32
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Good deal. 4.5 is over the old Hercules booklet I have.
4.5 is the very top of the load in the 49th Lyman manual.
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Looks like going from 4.0 grains to 4.5 grains of Unique is getting to the point of diminishing returns in the short barrel.
I agree. I'll probably load somewhere around 4.2gr when I get all my stuff to load 9mm on the 650. We'll see what that nets me.
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4.5 is the very top of the load in the 49th Lyman manual.
Yeah, I wasn't knocking it or warning you, I just wanted to let you know you were in the "max" zone.
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Old 06-07-2011, 22:04   #34
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I like the XTPs. They are affordible and they feed well. If you shoot them into anything to test expansion with a short barrel load, I'd be interested.
So, you think any of the bulk Remington or Winchester hollow points are good quality. Based on appearance, they are light years ahead of the stuff I was loading 15 years ago.

GREAT THREAD! THANKS!
IME,the 147grXTP expands for crap @ anything much below 900fps impact vel. You would probably have better luck w/ the Win bullet, but I haven't tried it.
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Old 06-08-2011, 16:38   #35
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Yeah, I wasn't knocking it or warning you, I just wanted to let you know you were in the "max" zone.
No Problem. I appreciate the heads up.
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Old 06-11-2011, 19:23   #36
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Here is a good review of the LC9 with some useful chrono data. The data jibes with mine in that similar ammo is giving similar velocities and the GDHP 124 +P is going a little faster than the non+P 124 GDHP I clocked.

http://gunsgunsguns.net/ruger-lc9/
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Reloading

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5.8gr of Unique in 9mm. That must be a pretty full shell. Is this load compressed?
My Nosler manual has a column for load density.
For their 115 grain JHP, they list a maximum load of 6.1 grains of Unique as 100% load density. i.e., they say it is not compressed.

Their maximum Blue Dot and SR4756 loads are listed at 109%, so these loads are compressed.
(My apologies for reposting this. I just purchased an LC9 and now I'm looking at all the old LC9 posts).
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125 Zero JHP
6.0 Unique

LC9 G17
Low 1084 1213
High 1131 1279
Average 1109 1251
Extreme Spread 46.95 65.43
Standard Deviation 19.59 24.14
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125 Zero JHP

6.5 SR4756

LC9
L: 1050
H: 1123
A: 1096
ES: 72.87
SD: 22.73

G17
L: 1204
H: 1266
A: 1223
ES: 62.10
SD: 17.97
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LC9
L: 1047
H: 1113
A: 1086
E: 66.31
S: 19.00

G17
L: 1182
H: 1244
A: 1224
E: 61.89
S: 21.74

125 Zero JHP
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LC9
L: 1078
H: 1113
A: 1097
E: 34.23
S:15.93

G17
L: 1242
H: 1297
A: 1260
E: 55.12
S: 21.49
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L: 899
H: 946.3
A: 919.3
E: 46.37
S: 14.38
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L: 927.9
H: 967.5
A: 947.0
E: 39.60
S: 14.00

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L: 958.6
H: 1015
A: 988.8
E: 56.95
S: 20.34
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A little thread drift here, but it's my thread. The pics of the chrono set up are to illustrate what works when using the Chrony brand. I set up a target, or pirate one left behind by some convenient action shooting slob who didn't clean up after himself. With the chrono well off to the side, I pick an aiming point on the target and shoot a group from my shooting position. Then I set the chrono up so the group is in the reading area of the unit. I was 5 paces from the unit.
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5 paces to me would be 15'. I set my Chrony up similiarly. It is usually appx 12-14' in front of me, such that the remote cord has just a little droop in it. I don't have any problems picking up shots, and haven't shot it yet.
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5 paces to me would be 15'. I set my Chrony up similiarly. It is usually appx 12-14' in front of me, such that the remote cord has just a little droop in it. I don't have any problems picking up shots, and haven't shot it yet.
I made my own remote cord. The cable is longer than yours, but it only saved jme a few bucks by the time I paid for the switch and the little box for it to go in. My father had the cord and it took his considerable experience to solder the switch without melting anything.
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My Nosler manual has a column for load density.
For their 115 grain JHP, they list a maximum load of 6.1 grains of Unique as 100% load density. i.e., they say it is not compressed.

Their maximum Blue Dot and SR4756 loads are listed at 109%, so these loads are compressed.
(My apologies for reposting this. I just purchased an LC9 and now I'm looking at all the old LC9 posts).
What does Nosler list as max for SR4756 and Unique with a 124/125?
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What does Nosler list as max for SR4756 and Unique with a 124/125?
The Nosler reloading manual #6 only lists loads for the 115 grain bullet.

The Complete Reloading Manual for the 9mm Luger has Nosler Manual loads for 90 grain and 115 grain bullets.

Kind of bummer to buy a manual and find out that it doesn't cover much.
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The Complete Reloading Manual for the 9mm Luger lists a maximum Hornady load for a 124 grain bullet as 5.5 grains of SR 4756 @ 1050 fps

and also for a

124 grain bullet 5.0 grains of Unique @ 1100 fps

Which makes sense to me since I've found 4756 to be kind of spikey
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