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Old 06-01-2011, 20:31   #1
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CCW permit holder injures 4 people in an Orlando Restaurant...

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I wonder if they had a "No Guns" sign before this incident. And I wonder if they do now?
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Old 06-01-2011, 20:36   #2
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this is why you buy a good holster.
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Old 06-01-2011, 20:46   #3
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A CHL holder not using a holster? Good grief.

While he wasn't arrested, I'm sure that a ND like this qualifies as criminal negligence due to the injuries others suffered. I can imagine lawsuits against the man and against his CHL trainer. The question to consider is whether the CHL training included instructions on safe concealed carry with a proper holster. While most on this board understand this, not all carriers do (obviously).

I envision a lawyer feeding frenzy.
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Old 06-01-2011, 20:49   #4
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Ok, It was me, I did it!

(i live in orlando)

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Old 06-01-2011, 20:49   #5
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Old 06-01-2011, 20:51   #6
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freaking retard. too bad he didn't shoot his junk off so he can't make more idiots like himself.
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Wonder what kinda gun he was carrying... Frankly, he should be charged w/ negligence. When are people gonna learn?

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Old 06-01-2011, 21:52   #8
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This had to be some .22 Derringer, or some crappy Saturday night special.. Any quality handgun would never go off when dropped on the floor.
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Old 06-01-2011, 22:39   #10
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This had to be some .22 Derringer, or some crappy Saturday night special.. Any quality handgun would never go off when dropped on the floor.
Nothing in the article stated the pistol fell out, hit the ground, and then fired. In fact, it stated that the owner suffered "powder burns and abrasions to his leg". Indicating that it went off while on his person.

From the article: "The gun owner wasn't arrested because he had a concealed weapons permit, but could be charged with negligence."

Very intriguing, but I'm guessing he will definitely suffer due to negligence. But there also must be more to the story. How can you be let off scott free for negligence just because you have a CCW?

A horrible/tragic incident indeed. The article does state "but the gun was in his pants with no holster." It's on his head to be accountable for what happened as it appears he had not properly secured his weapon.

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Holy crap. I'm glad that no one was seriously wounded from this unbelievably stupid event. This guy should have his gun privileges taken away. And, with all due respect, I realize that gun rights for all citizens are clearly defined in our Constitution but this diaper-load has shown that he is clueless when it comes to properly handling/carrying firearms.
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Was a 9mm auto in his pocket with no holster. A Springfield XD complete with grip safety and the works. Dufus still shot himself and others.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...oting-released
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Well then, that settles it. The guy was just a dumbass, not the pistol.
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Old 06-02-2011, 00:24   #14
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In TN it would likely be agg reckless endangerment. Regardless of the criminal aspect, he's definitely going to be looking at a lawsuit.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:08   #15
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According to this article it is a 9mm Glock.
I got this article from the Florida Shooters Network.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28013741/detail.html
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every pistol is a glock according to the media,just like every long gun is an AK47 assault rifle
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Man i would love to pocket carry a 50AE. The recoil will probably be like Will Smith's pocket gun in Men In Black
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:10   #17
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Here is the media firearm chart:

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Was a 9mm auto in his pocket with no holster. A Springfield XD complete with grip safety and the works. Dufus still shot himself and others.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...oting-released
Assuming it was an XD and in proper working order, what chain of events had to occur for that thing to go off, short of him grabbing the grip and pulling the trigger??


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Old 06-02-2011, 07:39   #19
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I can see the "anti-gunners" using this one incident as an example for why it shouldn't be legal for restaurant carry.

If you're gonna carry, be responsible about it.
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Assuming it was an XD and in proper working order, what chain of events had to occur for that thing to go off, short of him grabbing the grip and pulling the trigger??




The article that mentioned it was a Glock 9mm stated that he was "playing" with the pistol in his pocket while waiting to be seated at the restaurant. It went off in his pocket, burned and caused leg abrasions, then sent floor tile fragments into 3 others.

Never mind needing a good holster, the guy just needed ANY holster. What a moron.
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