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Old 06-02-2011, 19:50   #1
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What is the difference between the Lee deluxe and the pacesetter dies?

I'm checking out the different .223 Lee dies and can not decide which one to get.
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Old 06-02-2011, 20:24   #2
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Lee Deluxe 3-Die Set includes a full length sizing die, collet neck sizing die and bullet seating die.

Lee Pacesetter 3-Die Set includes the Lee Factory Crimp Die, Full Length Sizer Die and Bullet Seater Die.
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Old 06-02-2011, 21:59   #3
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Keep in mind the FCD for the Rifle dies is nothing like the FCD for pistol. FCD for the Rifle is just a really good crimp die. No post sizing is performed.
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Old 06-02-2011, 22:00   #4
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Lee Deluxe 3-Die Set includes a full length sizing die, collet neck sizing die and bullet seating die.

Lee Pacesetter 3-Die Set includes the Lee Factory Crimp Die, Full Length Sizer Die and Bullet Seater Die.
What is the benefit of the collet neck sizer?
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Old 06-02-2011, 22:03   #5
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What is the benefit of the collet neck sizer?
On a bolt gun or single shot your cases are only neck sized and the rest will be conformed with your individual gun making it more accurate.
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Old 06-02-2011, 22:08   #6
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On a bolt gun or single shot your cases are only neck sized and the rest will be conformed with your individual gun making it more accurate.
I'm reloading for an AR
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Old 06-02-2011, 22:41   #7
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I use the Pacesetters for my AR.
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Old 06-03-2011, 09:42   #8
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Pacesetter dies are what I would go with for an AR.

-Full-length size
-Seat Bullet
-Crimp case neck for good tension and eliminate setback during feeding under spring pressure

You will never use a collet "neck-only" sizer with an AR or other semi-auto. The shoulder needs set back and the case walls need to have their diameter reduced for reliable feeding.
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Old 06-04-2011, 17:07   #9
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I will go with the pacesetters. Thanks.
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