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Old 06-04-2011, 05:58   #1
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More Information on AZ SWAT Shooting: Unsealed Document

I didn't see this posted yet:

http://www.kvoa.com/news/newly-relea...-jose-guerena/

Search Warrant:

http://www.kvoa.com/files/Scanned%20...nt0582_000.pdf

Sheriff Interview:

http://www.kgun9.com/story/14831062/...edirected=true
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:59   #2
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So he might not be canonized after all? what a surprise.

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Old 06-04-2011, 07:30   #3
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I'm watching a discussion on a local board, tngunowners.com, and they're attacking the Police, as most gun nuts do. I know reading the warrant won't stop them, but it makes me feel better.
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:40   #4
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Post it down in PI all they will see is a free american availing himself of the government teat, and using his rights of free travel and association.
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:41   #5
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Where are all of our little oathkeepers, to tell us what a great guy he was?
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:09   #6
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Post it down in PI...
I put it in the helmet cam thread. Not many replies and no significant uptick in views. I suspicion that minds are made up.

There's more to come.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:35   #7
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That's a good warrant. Clearly lays out their PC.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:49   #8
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I put it in the helmet cam thread. Not many replies and no significant uptick in views. I suspicion that minds are made up.

There's more to come.
it's like I said in the thread there, they could care less about the facts. they don't like SWAT teams so the cops are wrong, PERIOD.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:12   #9
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God was with the SWAT team on that day...The safety on the AR was just too complex for dingbat drugboy. This warrant needs to be distributed and broadcasted to the nation...
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God was with the SWAT team on that day...The safety on the AR was just too complex for dingbat drugboy. This warrant needs to be distributed and broadcasted to the nation...
The flashbang they deployed may be the primary reason he never got the safety off and into action.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:46   #11
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I put it in the helmet cam thread. Not many replies and no significant uptick in views. I suspicion that minds are made up.

There's more to come.
I like how the usual suspect drug up something from 1992 to try to keep his case going.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:56   #12
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Hard to believe that anyone could read that search warrant and still think he was an angel. To get that much detail required a long, very professional investigation.
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:43   #13
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Hard to believe that anyone could read that search warrant and still think he was an angel. To get that much detail required a long, very professional investigation.
Why would ANYONE let something like oh,I don't know, the FACTS get in the way.....
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I like how the usual suspect drug up something from 1992 to try to keep his case going.
It's the one he always drags up, I think the guy may have owned him money or something.

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Old 06-04-2011, 12:48   #15
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I would like to see what they redacted from the warrant. Granted I am sure that it was to protect CI's and or undercover officers.

Good warrant. Outlines the property and the reasons for the search.
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Old 06-04-2011, 13:07   #16
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Old 06-04-2011, 13:13   #17
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I would like to see what they redacted from the warrant. Granted I am sure that it was to protect CI's and or undercover officers.

Good warrant. Outlines the property and the reasons for the search.
I found the counter-surveillance and subsequent inquiry on the surveillance vehicle's tag pretty interesting.
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Old 06-04-2011, 13:18   #18
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I found the counter-surveillance and subsequent inquiry on the surveillance vehicle's tag pretty interesting.
No kidding, I bet someone goes to jail for that eventually.
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Where are all of our little oathkeepers, to tell us what a great guy he was?
He is guilty of what?

The only thing that can be proved that he is guilty of is............he is dead.
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He is guilty of what?
Very bad judgment.
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