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Old 06-17-2011, 07:46   #1
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Watch for more Mumbai style attacks

al Qaeda is apparently looking into Mumbai style hotel attacks in the UK and possibly in the US.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/hote...s-ncx-20110617
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:55   #2
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I think there's quite a few citizens waiting on them over here.
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:17   #3
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Anti Al-Qaeda duty...where do I sign up???
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:43   #4
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Well I sure hope that the respective governments are up for defending every major hotel in the country 24/7 because they won't have any armed civilians to help out.
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Old 06-17-2011, 14:05   #5
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I'm surprised more Mumbai style attacks haven't happened to date. In some areas of the US they'd likely get stopped short, but in places like the UK where even the cops aren't well equipped for such an incident it'll be disastrous.
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Old 06-17-2011, 16:47   #6
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Maybe I'm getting too apathetic in my old age or perhaps I've achieved a comfortable level of preps. I don't want to see innocent people killed, obviously. But these threats just make me
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Old 06-17-2011, 16:47   #7
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I'm surprised more Mumbai style attacks haven't happened to date. In some areas of the US they'd likely get stopped short, but in places like the UK where even the cops aren't well equipped for such an incident it'll be disastrous.
That last time I was in London (last July) they had cops all over the place with subguns. They know how to handle terrorist attacks there.

You want to pull a Mubai attack here, go to your basic "gun free zone," a school or college/university that doesn't have armed campus police.
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Old 06-17-2011, 17:06   #8
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Ever spend the 4th of July in Washington DC?

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Old 06-17-2011, 17:07   #9
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Ever spend the 4th of July in Washington DC?

Yes, and that there is funny. Charlestown anyone?
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Well, in Los Angeles, there won't be any armed civilians but there will be a lot of LAPD coppers and they have the manpower and resources to adequately respond, just not before it is well underway.

In a smaller town with a smaller police department, then you can have a way better chance to pulling off a caper like this and get away with way more casualties.
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In a smaller town with a smaller police department, then you can have a way better chance to pulling off a caper like this and get away with way more casualties.
Unless a local, who trains hard and is always prepared, puts an end to their party
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From Wikipedia (Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; no copyright issue)

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The attackers had planned the attack several months ahead of time and knew some areas well enough for the attackers to vanish, and reappear after security forces had left. Several sources have quoted Kasab telling the police that the group received help from Mumbai residents.[107][108] The attackers used at least three SIM cards purchased on the Indian side of the border with Bangladesh.[109] There were also reports of a SIM card purchased in the US state New Jersey.[110] Police had also mentioned that Faheem Ansari, an Indian Lashkar operative who had been arrested in February 2008, had scouted the Mumbai targets for the November attacks.[111] Later, the police arrested two Indian suspects, Mikhtar Ahmad, who is from Srinagar in Kashmir, and Tausif Rehman, a resident of Kolkata. They supplied the SIM cards, one in Calcutta, and the other in New Delhi.[112]

Type 86 Grenades made by China's state-owned Norinco were used in the attacks.[113]

Blood tests on the attackers indicate that they had taken cocaine and LSD during the attacks, to sustain their energy and stay awake for 50 hours. Police say that they found syringes on the scenes of the attacks. There were also indications that they had been taking steroids.[114] The gunman who survived said that the attackers had used Google Earth to familiarise themselves with the locations of buildings used in the attacks.[115]

There were ten gunmen, nine of whom were subsequently shot dead and one captured by security forces.[116][117] Witnesses reported that they looked to be in their early twenties, wore black t-shirts and jeans, and that they smiled and looked happy as they shot their victims.[118]
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Unless a local, who trains hard and is always prepared, puts an end to their party
Rambo?
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They're all dead Johnny.
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Old 06-18-2011, 15:53   #15
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I'm surprised more Mumbai style attacks haven't happened to date. In some areas of the US they'd likely get stopped short, but in places like the UK where even the cops aren't well equipped for such an incident it'll be disastrous.
+1

I've said the same about IED's and roadside bombs with no real argument from anyone except..."the bad guys get here, turn out to like our way of life, and then change their minds".

As far as hotel shootings and such, this is why I ALWAYS have my Draco in my GHB. It helps turn cover into concealment. Plus a couple armed with at least 9mm's would be a nightmare for mass shooters...armed with shotguns even moreso. But I refuse to pay $600+ for Serbu's just on principle.

As stated earlier, college campuses are plump and juicy targets for terrorists. It would be fairly easy to bomb/shoot up one. Again, no clue why there aren't such attacks going on. All that's needed is a gun and some ammo along with a true hatred for our way of life and there seems to be entire countries filled with such people. I certainly do not WANT it to happen mind you but why it hasn't happened is baffling.

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Old 06-18-2011, 16:27   #16
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I certainly do not WANT it to happen mind you but why it hasn't happened is baffling.

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I agree. I know the enemy measures time different than we do. If a victory takes centuries, they don't see that as a problem. However I would just think there are so many easy or soft targets that require little money or planning to be effective.
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I agree. I know the enemy measures time different than we do. If a victory takes centuries, they don't see that as a problem. However I would just think there are so many easy or soft targets that require little money or planning to be effective.
Exactly. Winning by attrition is one thing but it's almost like they are either wussing out or waiting for a higher power to do it for them through disease, natural disaster, etc...

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Unless a local, who trains hard and is always prepared, puts an end to their party
Rambo, John McClain, Master Chief Casey Ryback, and that annoying Kid from Home Alone are all nice Hollywood fiction, but the lone hero that takes on a whole determined team of baddies is not likely to fare too well in the real world without a high degree of skill and a lot of luck.

What do you guys carry EDC? I am not loaded for bear when I am not working. I used to carry a lot more but lately, I have lightened my off duty carry to a pocket pistol with 7+1 9mm in the gun and a 7 round reload. Hardly enough to take on a team of terrorists wielding AK-47's and even shotguns unless I cannabalize and take guns off each dead bad guy.

You really expect some lone local off duty cop or even on duty cop to take on a massive attack such as that in Mumbai with multiple locations and multiple teams with assault rifles and explosives?

He might take a few bastards with him but killing all of them and putting an end to the whole fight is unlikely.
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Old 06-19-2011, 04:44   #19
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I could be in trouble when/if they start targeting Super 8.
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Rambo?
Yeah, it turns out that non ninja/specops/swat/leo/whatevercoolfantasy dudes can kill badguys too, they just have to train for what comes their way. In fact, there are actually places now where lowly civilians can go to learn how to do dangerous things to bad people

http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/
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