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06-17-2011, 13:55
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Florida SB 234 Signed Governor
I just found out that SB 234 has been signed by Governor Scott.
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06-17-2011, 14:23
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Florida Senate Bill 0234 (2011)
Firearms; Provides that a person who is licensed to carry a concealed firearm is not in violation of law if the firearm is briefly and openly displayed under certain circumstances. Allows the Division of Licensing of the DOACS to take fingerprints from concealed carry license applicants. Provides that a person may not openly carry a weapon or firearm or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into specified locations. Provides that concealed carry licensees shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes, etc.
EFFECTIVE DATE: upon becoming a law
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06-17-2011, 18:08
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So does the bill basically makes it legal for your shirt to fly up and expose your sidearm instead of it being a crime?
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06-17-2011, 18:11
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06-17-2011, 19:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macville
So does the bill basically makes it legal for your shirt to fly up and expose your sidearm instead of it being a crime?
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Basically...
It's stupid to criminalize incidental flashing anyway..
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06-19-2011, 20:42
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still think crime would be down if a criminal walked in to a gas station at 1:00am and saw me and a buddy with glocks on our hips they would think twice about robing it... at least that store
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06-19-2011, 21:17
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Well. If you own the gas station. Cant you openly carry inside the gas station? The world changes once you step outside though.
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06-19-2011, 21:22
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Originally Posted by GunHo198
Well. If you own the gas station. Cant you openly carry inside the gas station? The world changes once you step outside though.
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I work the grave yard at a gas station and open carry
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06-19-2011, 21:37
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So who decided if you accidently showed your gun? Left open to interpetation by an LEO as some citizen calls the cops cause they saw your gun when you reached to the stop shelf to get something at the grocery store.
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06-20-2011, 08:30
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Originally Posted by MrSmoofy
So who decided if you accidently showed your gun? Left open to interpetation by an LEO as some citizen calls the cops cause they saw your gun when you reached to the stop shelf to get something at the grocery store.
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It is not open to interpretation because the law does not say that it must be accidental. It can even be intentional display so long as it's not done in a threatening or angry manner.
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06-20-2011, 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmoofy
So who decided if you accidently showed your gun? Left open to interpetation by an LEO as some citizen calls the cops cause they saw your gun when you reached to the stop shelf to get something at the grocery store.
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That doesn't happen anyway. At least no legal person has been prosecuted. It's just a BS book law.
If you followed the process, It was basically undermined by a few gov reps in closed doors & said fu to the people. They will get theirs at reelection.
I'm more pissed at scott for caving in & signing it. He is showing that he wants to be liked in gov instead of working for the people like he should be.
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06-20-2011, 11:01
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That doesn't happen anyway. At least no legal person has been prosecuted. It's just a BS book law.
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It is the result of the campaign by OC activist to get OC passed in Fl.
Criminal prosecution was the BS bug a boo the activist pushed to try and get support for thier goal, OC in Fl.
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06-20-2011, 11:27
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Originally Posted by fuzzy03cls
He is showing that he wants to be liked in gov instead of working for the people like he should be.
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Oh for crying out loud come one.. Scott has the lowest approval rating of any Gov in the USA right now. I happen to like him and I voted for him but to say that he " wants to be liked" more than working for the people is just absurd 
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06-20-2011, 11:29
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Originally Posted by Dragoon44
It is the result of the campaign by OC activist to get OC passed in Fl.
Criminal prosecution was the BS bug a boo the activist pushed to try and get support for thier goal, OC in Fl.
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Personally I am happy we got something out of it. I never cared about OC for myself, but I think it isnt a bad thing that this got done.
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06-20-2011, 19:10
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It was strange to me before all of this. If your carrying concealed WITHOUT a permit and they see your gun. Than they charge you with carring a concealed weapon. Put if you HAVE. A permit, then they could charge you with open carry if they saw your weapon. There was a guy arrested at a casino because even though he had a permit, an employee saw his hangun inside his shirt in it's holster. Guess he didn't know the casino was a no no. LOL
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06-20-2011, 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GunHo198
It was strange to me before all of this. If your carrying concealed WITHOUT a permit and they see your gun. Than they charge you with carring a concealed weapon. Put if you HAVE. A permit, then they could charge you with open carry if they saw your weapon. There was a guy arrested at a casino because even though he had a permit, an employee saw his hangun inside his shirt in it's holster. Guess he didn't know the casino was a no no. LOL
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It may be a mistake to confuse Florida state law with indian reservation laws.
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06-21-2011, 07:31
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Guess he didn't know the casino was a no no.
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It's not. As blackdobe said that's a indian reservation law & is the same as a sign that says no guns. I doubt he was arrested. He may have been asked to leave. or refused to leave & then arrested for armed trespass.
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06-21-2011, 12:30
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Originally Posted by fuzzy03cls
It's not. As blackdobe said that's a indian reservation law & is the same as a sign that says no guns. I doubt he was arrested. He may have been asked to leave. or refused to leave & then arrested for armed trespass.
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That sounds very likely. From what I hear, the LEOs at the Hard Rock have little tolerance for any kind of debate like that.
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06-21-2011, 12:36
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Ok, Found a link. Guess he wasn't trying to conceal it enough.
http://beta2.tbo.com/news/news/2009/...es--ar-122198/
On another site they said we have receprocity with the tribes, so concealed carry is fine. But I guess if its seen then your going to be asked to leave reguardless of a permit or not.
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