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Old 07-05-2011, 09:00   #1
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Friend Denied Permit

A friend of mine that I'm helping learn to shoot bought four pistols in the last three months. Bought holsters for all, mag pouches, etc. He already sent his paperwork off for a license and I just learned that he was denied a carry permit. He is going to challenge it. He told me it was something that occurred back in college. Whatever he did isn't bad enough to buy a gun, but he can't carry?

Anyone know if anyone has ever challenged and won a denied carry permit?
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:42   #2
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Not knowing the charges to answer your question, yes people have challenged permit denials and won. They have also lost.
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:59   #3
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Not knowing the charges to answer your question, yes people have challenged permit denials and won. They have also lost.
Public nudity on a bet. Wouldn't think that would deny someone 30+ years later.
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indiana is a shall issue state, if he can buy.own a gun, he can carry one....puzzled to know why his permit was denied....
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indiana is a shall issue state, if he can buy.own a gun, he can carry one....puzzled to know why his permit was denied....
Like the dude said for showing off his "GUN" in college
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Public nudity may have gotten him a sex offender listing.
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Public nudity on a bet. Wouldn't think that would deny someone 30+ years later.
It wouldn't. If he challenges it and loses, there's probably something your friend isn't telling you.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:13   #8
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Don't see why they wouldn't give him a permit, the whole town already knows what he's packin, at least let him put it under some clothes!
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:14   #9
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Public nudity may have gotten him a sex offender listing.
This. In many states this is the case.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:32   #10
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Public nudity may have gotten him a sex offender listing.
how could he have passed the insta-check when he bought guns in the recent past?
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how could he have passed the insta-check when he bought guns in the recent past?
Good point.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:42   #12
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I don't believe the original poster said his buddy had been charged with public nudity or anything of the sort.

Either way I am guessing that there is someone out there with the same name or a very similar one and a much more felonious past. I am willing to bet that it is probably a mistake unless there is something he is hiding. But it seems silly to deny him the ability to carry a gun but allow him to purchase one.
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I think I know what happened. He's very ashamed and isn't telling me much. He said he thought it was off his record. I think he said no to disclosing past offenses and that red flagged it when they ran his record noticing he lied about priors. Make sense?

But, just thought about this, what if he said no on his paperwork while buying the gun. Would that catch up to him even if the phone check cleared him?

Anyway, I'm meeting him after work at the range. I'll hear all about it. Indy has a new Transport Law that's coming in handy for him.
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:26   #14
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Just another case of where concealed carry would have solved the problem.
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I think I know what happened. He's very ashamed and isn't telling me much. He said he thought it was off his record. I think he said no to disclosing past offenses and that red flagged it when they ran his record noticing he lied about priors. Make sense?

But, just thought about this, what if he said no on his paperwork while buying the gun. Would that catch up to him even if the phone check cleared him?

Anyway, I'm meeting him after work at the range. I'll hear all about it. Indy has a new Transport Law that's coming in handy for him.
Just a thought, firearm purchasing backgroud checks NCIS, not sure if each states dept check the same database when processing the CCW applications. So if your frined's previous offense was only entered in the State's database but not the NCIS, he won't have problem purchasing a gun but will have problem getting approved for a permit. Tell him to get a Florida non resident license, then he can carry.
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Old 07-06-2011, 06:34   #16
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Yup. He lied putting no on the permit form saying he's never had any prior offenses. That denied him. He was told it was removed from his record, but I would think anything criminal follows everyone. He's going to go in front of a judge soon to appeal.

He went streaking back in the early 80's. Neighbors called the cops. He won the bet though...
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Yup. He lied putting no on the permit form saying he's never had any prior offenses. That denied him. He was told it was removed from his record, but I would think anything criminal follows everyone. He's going to go in front of a judge soon to appeal.

He went streaking back in the early 80's. Neighbors called the cops. He won the bet though...
He won the bet, but he's still paying the price...
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Lying on the application form itself could be an offense. It was rather unwise to do so and the judge may have an issue with that.

"He was told" it was removed? Unless you go through the process to have something expunged, things are not just removed. And, don't trust what people tell you. Find out for sure before lying.
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It is my experience that most people do not fully disclose full details relating to criminal charges - friends or not.

Call it shame, pride, or just ignorance (I thought it was off.... or I didnt know it was a felony charge...)

a lie on a licensing document about criminal history is bad juju
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Streaking makes you a sex offender, and ghetto families buying lobster and steak by the cart using food stamps. Has it really come to this?
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