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Old 06-15-2011, 19:20   #81
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Dosei,
Since Glock has since redesigned (fixed) the original firing pin block safety, I would think even if there was a slide separation the firing pin block would prevent the firing pin from connecting. Reasonable assumption?
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Old 06-15-2011, 20:42   #82
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We can certainly agree to disagree, but I am in fact correct. The premise of your statement is that a Glock cannot discharge without the trigger being pulled. The hypothesis that a Glock cannot have an AD is falsifiable to put it in scientific terms and has already been falsified, Suffolk County circa 1992 and DEA testing (1991). A discharge due to mechanical failure is an AD, a discharge through a negligent act whether intended or not, is an ND.

If it can happen once, and it has, then it can happen again however rare it may be. I will say it is extremely rare, but to in fact say that a mechanical device cannot fail is incorrect.

I not trying to pick a fight, but simply pointing out mechanical things can and do sometimes fail.
I sometimes forget the ignorance of some glock owners that this gun, Gods apparent gift to man, can not discharge without the trigger being pulled. It seems until a bullet "leaves the glock barrel" and enters a family members frontal lobe then it MIGHT become a probability.
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Just make sure whatever holster you use has a covered trigger guard. That is the holster covers the trigger so there is no way it can be accessed.

Then practice keeping your finger off that trigger once you pull the weapon until you are GOING to fire. It takes only a fraction of a second to put your finger on the trigger from outside the trigger guard.

Practice it first with an empty weapon but in time your habits will become ingrained and it will be an automatic response..

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I have a blackhawk serpa level 2 holster that i am very comfortable with now. I had a fobus but was not comfortable with it. For what it's worth I emptied the magazine, cleared the chamber and pulled the slide back. After putting it in the glock standard case I gave it a good shake. trigger went off with the dimples in the case.
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Old 06-15-2011, 21:26   #83
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I really don't understand the need for what is essentially a hair trigger on a carry gun. You're not shooting the wings off of flies at 25 yards.
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:36   #84
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I put a 3.5lb trigger on all of my pistols whether they be a 1911, CZ75, XD, etc. Why, because that is what I like and I am safe and comfortable with it. For some people, this trigger wt is entirely too lt. Keep in mind, it is the singer, not the song that is the real issue here.
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Old 06-16-2011, 05:42   #85
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Dosei,
Since Glock has since redesigned (fixed) the original firing pin block safety, I would think even if there was a slide separation the firing pin block would prevent the firing pin from connecting. Reasonable assumption?
The design was indeed changed to address the flaw discovered by the DEA "Frisbee Test" and thus far it appears to have remedied the problem.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:44   #86
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That being said, you created a thread seeking a "solution" to a "problem" you created. That's the real issue here.
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In light of your response, I am going to revert back to the "if you have to ask, then you probably should not."
Agreed! if you feel the need to ask, you probably have gone too far with the modifications, for a carry gun.

I'll be doing a trigger job on my 442 this weekend. (Rebound spring and some stoning.) I'll be removing the 18# and replacing it with a 13# spring. . . Plus doing some internal polishing.

You don't need a 3.5# trigger to shoot well. . People shoot 7#-8# triggers on revolvers all the time and hit what they are aiming at.

Going with your 3.5# trigger, the simple solution is to get a GOOD holster that covers and protects the trigger, and to make sure that you keep your finger off of the trigger.
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Old 06-16-2011, 14:29   #87
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I sometimes forget the ignorance of some glock owners that this gun, Gods apparent gift to man, can not discharge without the trigger being pulled. It seems until a bullet "leaves the glock barrel" and enters a family members frontal lobe then it MIGHT become a probability.


That would mean a weapon pointed at a frontal lobe. Again- if not intended: negligence. But I sort of get what you are saying. Sort of.

Hey, remember- We all responded cause YOU asked. Believe what you want, sir.

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Old 07-06-2011, 16:27   #88
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How many of you use a 3.5lb connector on your carry piece (w/o a NY1)?

Do you consider this a safe configuration for carry? On my g20, I like that the 5 lb connector reduces much of the creep before the break, but my groups are tighter with the 3.5lb.
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Old 07-06-2011, 16:41   #89
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I won't be surprised if quite a few people say they use that combo. I've seen at least one guy on YouTube say it.

How tight a group do you need for a defensive pistol? A hair trigger is always going to be a better shooter. Doesn't mean it's a good idea for carry.

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Old 07-06-2011, 16:50   #90
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my groups are tighter with the 3.5 but for carry i'll stay with stock. as far as unsafe, i wouldn't go that far as long as you are well diciplined with your trigger finger. my 1911 has a 3.5 pull with minimal creep and i have carried that for over 25yrs with no problems.
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Old 07-06-2011, 16:50   #91
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I used to on my G19, but it was sold. But it was my every day carry.

My current Glocks have stock triggers, and they all get carried.
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Old 07-06-2011, 17:00   #92
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Disciplined or not, accidents happen under stress, physical altercations, reholstering, etc.

Why does Glock insist that the light connector is not for duty/defense use? Are they idiots?

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Old 07-06-2011, 17:01   #93
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I carry my Glocks with a trigger that works best for me so when I fear for my life or the life of others I have a better chance of defending myself or others. Carry what works best for You.
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Old 07-06-2011, 17:02   #94
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I have one in my carry G36, but this gun came with a truly horrible trigger.....8 lb. and broke like a popsicle stick. The minus connector made it feel like all my other factory stock trigger part Glocks. If this one isn't safe to carry, none of them are.
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Old 07-06-2011, 17:09   #95
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i carry with a 3.5 in both of my glocks...keep your finger off the trigger and it wont go bang. its as simple as that

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Old 07-06-2011, 17:15   #96
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Minus connector in a Gen 4 like our four superbly reliable four still nets a trigger a skosh over 5lbs like a Gen 3 is "in theory".
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Old 07-06-2011, 17:31   #97
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i carry with a 3.5 in both of my glocks...keep your finger off the trigger and it wont go bang. its as simple as that

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Old 07-06-2011, 17:35   #98
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My G21SF has the 3.5 and I CCW it, but I use a Safe T Block as I do on all my Glocks. No need to flame, do what makes you feel comfortable.
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Old 07-06-2011, 18:05   #99
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the 3.5 connectors i used took my break down to 4.5, i doubt that 1lb less than stock makes the gun unsafe. i don't think what ever ND that happens 1lb would make it not happen.
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Old 07-06-2011, 18:36   #100
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I carry my GLOCKS with a 3.5 pound connector. Absolutely safe, utterly useful, and a good modification to a great firearm.
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