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Old 07-06-2011, 20:50   #1
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Anyone here CCW a G30sf?

I am still debating between the G23 or G30sf as a CCW. Here in CA we are limited to 10 round capacity. The way I think of it is if I were limited to 10, I might as well go with the bigger load. I have owned and shot my G21sf which I felt more comfortable with than my buddies G22. I feel that the recoil on the .40 was more violent compared to my .45acp.
I wanted to see if a shorter barrel on the 30sf would have a huge impact compared to my G21sf as far as recoil goes? Do you have a tough time concealing the 30sf considering its slightly thicker frame/slide?
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Old 07-06-2011, 20:56   #2
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23 should be a tad lighter, especially given your 10 round cap you say you have in your state. Should be SLIGHTLY slimmer. Notice I stress SLIGHTLY. Ammo will be cheaper with the .40.

But to be honest, if I had a 10 round mag cap law I would go with the g30/g30sf and stock up on the standard 10 rd mags.
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Old 07-06-2011, 21:04   #3
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Yes - I use an IWB from Shielded Holsters.
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Old 07-06-2011, 21:07   #4
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If i had the mag limit I'd go with the 30 or with a 27 but not a 23..

Don't get me wrong... the 23 is my favorite ccw... but not with a reduced mag
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Old 07-06-2011, 21:17   #5
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I was going to ask why choose a 23 over a 27 when you have a 10 round limit? I carry a G30sf daily in a CBST with my own combat cut. Its comfortable, but it is thick. Cant carry at work because of this, planning on getting a Ruger LCP for pocket carry. But I wouldnt trade my G30SF for anything really. I have over 800 flawless rounds through it *knock on wood* So far so good.
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Old 07-06-2011, 21:23   #6
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I now have approximately 2500 trouble-free rounds through my G30SF. I carry it in a Crossbreed Supertuck. I think it's the perfect CCW...especially since you're limited to 10 round mags. The 30 is a VERY soft shooting pistol. In my hands, it's much faster back on target than a small .40.
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Old 07-06-2011, 22:05   #7
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My G30 is part of my carry rotation ( I can't manage to limit myself to one, I have about ten different guns i might carry any given day). It virtually disappears for me in a Blade-Tech IWB holster. I think it is an excellent carry gun.

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Old 07-07-2011, 00:43   #8
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I carry a G30 SF in a Crossbreed SuperTuck or a Comp-Tac MTAC in the summer.

Since you're limited to 10 rounds, IMHO you can't carry a better pistol than the G30.

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Old 07-07-2011, 02:27   #9
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I asked Mas Ayoob this question on the Self defense forum sometime ago, here is his response.


Being torn between two good guns isn't a bad thing, when you're unlikely to go wrong with either.

My personal preference is for the 30 series, and my G30s get a lot more carry and trigger time than my 23. For me personally, they carry about the same, but the slightly thicker dimensions of the G30 bother some folks more than others. YMMV.

Personally, I've been a .45 guy for 50 years and only shooting .40s for about 21 years, so there may be some "geezer habituation factor" involved in my own preference for the 30. I do like that in times of ammo shortage, there seems to be more "fudge factor" with less than favorite loads in .45 than in .40. And, when I have to carry in 10-round magazine jurisdictions as I have on a couple of trips recently, it would just gall me to have to carry a reduced capacity magazine in a G23 instead of a full capacity mag in a G30. On the other hand, the 23 does give you three more rounds, and there are reasons why the Glock 23 is so hugely popular.

You mentioned the 23RTF in your title line. Different folks react differently, but in hot weather or deep concealment carry where the gun might be next to bare skin, the RTF finish is abrasive to some.

As noted, either is a solid choice.

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Old 07-07-2011, 05:03   #10
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I will be carrying my new 30SF IWB as soon as the good people at Crossbreed send me my new holster.I foresee no problems concealing the .45 as I have several other Crossbreed holsters and have nothing but praise for them.A loose fitting shirt does the trick when I carry my Browning HiPower,my Glock 19 or my Glock 36.The model 30 just isn`t that much thicker where it will cause a problem.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:03   #11
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I carry a 30 (non SF) fairly regularly and don't find it that much different to carry over a 23. I happen to shoot my 30 better than a 23 or my 19, so caliber be darned, THAT is the best reason for my choice.

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If i had the mag limit I'd go with the 30 or with a 27 but not a 23..

Don't get me wrong... the 23 is my favorite ccw... but not with a reduced mag
There is something to be said about this. The "reduced" magazines were not part of the original design. I shoot a G34 at times and I use the 10 round magazines (as I shoot in NJ at times, and the 17 rd mags aren't legal). I've had occasional issues with the 10 rounders that I've not seen with the 17s. Also, seems the mag springs wore out pretty quick, IMO. I have Wolfs in there now and so far things are working.

I'm saying perhaps a gun that was designed to be 10 rounds may be a better option than a gun that was neutered to be 10 rounds.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:39   #12
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If i had the mag limit I'd go with the 30 or with a 27 but not a 23..

Don't get me wrong... the 23 is my favorite ccw... but not with a reduced mag
This is my take on it too.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:17   #13
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My vote is for the 30. I have carried a 30 off and on for years. I like it with the 9 round mag because it shortens the grip even further. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around 10 round mags for a gun designed to hold more. So, I would go with the 30. You might also consider a 38. You get the 45 stopping power and 23 grip size.

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Old 07-07-2011, 07:44   #14
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edc is a 30 - the 30 is concealable but may take a little more thought into what your wearing for the day. Other than that no issues. Easy to conceal, very shootable, and has been reliable.

If the width might be an issue - have you looked at a g36 (slimmist glock and in .45acp)?
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:59   #15
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My EDC is a G29 (same size as the G30) and I don't mind it at all. Don't go for the G23... I have one and love it but go for a G26 or G27 or a G30 but don't go for a G23...I think it would be a waste of size and weight for no gain if you went with the G23 ...just my opinion
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:03   #16
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My EDC is a G29 (same size as the G30) and I don't mind it at all. Don't go for the G23... I have one and love it but go for a G26 or G27 or a G30 but don't go for a G23...I think it would be a waste of size and weight for no gain if you went with the G23 ...just my opinion
Would your opinion be the same if the OP didn't live in a state with 10 round mag limits?
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:21   #17
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Or you could consider the 32 & 29, these are my choices. 29 for winter & 32 summer. The 23 & 32 are similar in power but the 29 beats the 30.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:30   #18
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30sf with Glock sport/combat holster..........works pretty good for me.

I also shoot the 30sf better than my G19.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:09   #19
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Would your opinion be the same if the OP didn't live in a state with 10 round mag limits?

It would change if the limit wasn't 10 rounds. To carry a bigger firearm you better get more in return ( I am starting to sound like nutnfancy ) more meaning more fire power
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:26   #20
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I have a G-30 I have carried for years and I like it, it is quite accurate, and I use 185 +p corbons to keep the weight down. I also carry a G-29 SF( I don't really need the SF, but when I had the chance to get a 29 the SF was the only thing they had) the 29 packs quite a punch, but I shoot it fine. I have a 9 round mag for my G-30 because it fits better in my motorcycle jacket pocket.

I would go with the 30 because the 40s seem a little snappier to me, I shoot them fine, but would just rather have a 45. I do have a 40 in my rotation, a USP compact, that sees a fair amount of use, but for me it is mostly the 29 or 30 in the summer, winter, usually a G-20 or an XD 357 SIG. Those latter two for you wouldn't make sense with the onerous restrictions they have placed on you, happy hunting.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:35   #21
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I have a G-30 I have carried for years and I like it, it is quite accurate, and I use 185 +p corbons to keep the weight down.
That made me go hmmm, so I did the calculation. Assuming same powder charge, it appears you save 1.13 ounces over the 230. Assuming a little over 1 grain powder difference (more in the 185), about 1.10 savings over 11 rounds.

If I figured correctly:

230 - ( 185 + 1(powder) ) = 44g per round
46 * 11 = 484g (for 11 rounds)
484 / 7000 (7,000g = 1lb) = 0.0691 lbs
0.0691 * 16 (16oz in 1 lb) = 1.1056 ounces
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:25   #22
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there is minor size difference between the 23 and the 30sf,I have been carrying the G30sf and a G19 for years and now have added a G29sf into the mix,can't tell which one I am carrying its such a small difference.
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:24   #23
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G30sf here for my primary carry gun, usually in IWB holster in warmer weather and in OWB during the winter months. You will never be outgunned with 10 rounds of 45 ACP.
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:18   #24
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Yes. 30sf normally in a Theis IWB. Sometimes in a Don Hume 721OT with a shirt out or a jacket.
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Old 07-09-2011, 13:07   #25
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I am still debating between the G23 or G30sf as a CCW. Here in CA we are limited to 10 round capacity. The way I think of it is if I were limited to 10, I might as well go with the bigger load. I have owned and shot my G21sf which I felt more comfortable with than my buddies G22. I feel that the recoil on the .40 was more violent compared to my .45acp.
I wanted to see if a shorter barrel on the 30sf would have a huge impact compared to my G21sf as far as recoil goes? Do you have a tough time concealing the 30sf considering its slightly thicker frame/slide?
I had a Gen2 G23 I bought new in 1995 and until this spring it was one of my primary carry pistols, especially in the colder months. This pistol has been 100% reliable and although some say it is a snappy round I've been able to handle any additional perceived recoil with no problems. This past winter I added a G27 for the summer t-shirt months so I had the medium "compact" and baby "sub-compact" 40 caliber Glocks. Life was good.

I said I "had" a G23, well I gave my G23 to my son since he didn't have a Glock and I was planning to upgrade to a Gen4 G23. My blue-label supply shop was out of Gen4 G23s for almost 2 months and on a whim I bought a Gen3 G30 to "hold me over". Darned if it hasn't replaced my thoughts of getting another G23!

The G30 ROCKS! I highly recommend it. Yes, it is a little wider and a smidge heavier, but it shoots great, is very accurate, with the 10 round mag it is about the same grip size as the G23, and it is chambered in the benchmark 45 ACP. What's not to like? If I want a shorter grip length to reduce printing, I use a 9 round mag for carry and use either a G30 - 10 round or a G21 - 13 round mag for a spare.

One other thing of note, some shooters accustomed to other pistols say the Glock grip angle points high for them. I can see what they are talking about when I hold a compact or full sized Glock, but it has never been an issue for me. However, the grips on the baby sub-compact Glocks end in the middle of my palm and actually point a bit lower for me than the compact or full sized pistols. This puts the effective grip angle close to that of my 1911 and works for my G26, G27, and now G30.

Bottom line: Get the G30 and get yourself a good IWB holster such as a Crossbreed Supertuck. Sorry for the long post.

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