Shocking Failure To Notify! Dash Cam Footage (Tonight)

Jake44460 · 07-20-2011, 16:22

Warning!
The dash-cam video will contain very coarse language.

Ohio has a law that requires anyone who holds a CHL license to notify an officer when stopped for LEO purposes (if carrying).

Tonight you'll see how wrong things can go.
http://ohioccw.org/201107204953/shoc...e-tonight.html

Gunnut 45/454 · 07-20-2011, 16:26

Where the video? None at your link!

Knowing OH cops I'm sure they put the boots to the guy right!

Was around any of the Super anti gun cities!!

**Lonestar 48** · 07-20-2011, 16:30

Says it won't be posted until after 9PM Eastern

cowboy1964 · 07-20-2011, 18:02

SPIN2010 · 07-20-2011, 18:05

Ohio is in such incapable hands of leadership it is pathetic, if you are even thinking of moving here ... BEWARE!

kensteele · 07-20-2011, 18:07

Haha, I was expecting to see a video. Guess I'll have to wait. In the meantime, I'm going to go back and lookup all those comments I made last year about the "must notify" law in OH and see how I did. LOL

cloudbuster · 07-20-2011, 18:24

Ohio's CCW laws are loaded with subtle restrictions that have nothing to do with protecting the police or the public and everything to do with being able to shout "Gotcha!" and convict an otherwise law-abiding citizen of a victimless felony or misdemeanor.

There have been a number of improvements since the original CCW law was passed, but there's still a long ways to go.

Jake44460 · 07-20-2011, 18:28

Quote:

There have been a number of improvements since the original CCW law was passed, but there's still a long ways to go.

Considering how "young" Concealed Carry is here in Ohio, we've made great strides since it's legal inception.

I do agree, we still have a lot of work to do.

catalyst686 · 07-20-2011, 18:30

tagged

cloudbuster · 07-20-2011, 18:36

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Originally Posted by Jake44460

Considering how "young" Concealed Carry is here in Ohio, we've made great strides since it's legal inception.

You're right, there have been a good number of legislators who have been very stalwart about supporting the improvements, and a great grass roots organization.

And on the other side, they have ... Toby Hoover.

slickt0mmy · 07-20-2011, 19:39

It's up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc

Naptown34 · 07-20-2011, 19:46

IBTL.

This is interesting...

cowboy1964 · 07-20-2011, 19:54

CCW in Ohio came about in 2004 but the car carry "in plain sight" requirement was so ridiculous I didn't even bother until they got rid of that.

The driver was spewing all kinds of nonsense and seemed to have plenty of oppurtunity to inform (at least 40 seconds).

Looks to me like the guy was cruisin for streetwalkers. Tip: leave your gun at home when committing a misdemeanor.

That cop needs better emotion control to say the least.

It would have been nice if dispatch had "informed" the cops when they first ran the plate.

Calico Jack · 07-20-2011, 19:54

Wow... that's all I got.

slickt0mmy · 07-20-2011, 19:58

Wow. That was a nightmare.

Zagato · 07-20-2011, 20:13

driver was dumb and a total ***** for not informing the cop even when told not to speak. Driver cop was WAY out of line several times and should be fired. Seems like hes got some PTSD or anger problems. Bit of a loose cannon if you ask me. Gonna be interesting to see how this develops.

***seanmac45*** · 07-20-2011, 20:15

OK so a guy gets stopped while engaging a pros and her pimp in conversation. It's obviously a drug and prostitution prone location. Subject fails to notify investigating officer of weapon as stipulated in the law. He goes to jail.

The cop went overboard berating him, but that was just because he realized he was a dead man for not checking for weapons first. He was way too focused on making the drug collar.

Boo Hoo for the operator of the vehicle. He was looking to get his pipes cleaned while armed.

Is this who you want for a poster boy for concealed carry?

GeorgiaRedfish · 07-20-2011, 20:16

Wow, just wow. Some of the statements made by the officer. Though the driver should've informed, even after being told to be quiet. I am glad I live in Georgia.

slickt0mmy · 07-20-2011, 20:18

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Originally Posted by seanmac45

OK so a guy gets stopped while engaging a pros and her pimp in conversation. It's obviously a drug and prostitution prone location. Subject fails to notify investigating officer of weapon as stipulated in the law. He goes to jail.

The cop went overboard berating him, but that was just because he realized he was a dead man for not checking for weapons first. He was way too focused on making the drug collar.

Boo Hoo for the operator of the vehicle. He was looking to get his pipes cleaned while armed.

Is this who you want for a poster boy for concealed carry?

According to the man's attorney, he really did know the woman as he claimed. His story checks out. It's extremely fishy, but it checks out.

robbynola · 07-20-2011, 20:19

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964

CCW in Ohio came about in 2004 but the car carry "in plain sight" requirement was so ridiculous I didn't even bother until they got rid of that.

The driver was spewing all kinds of nonsense and seemed to have plenty of oppurtunity to inform (at least 40 seconds).

Looks to me like the guy was cruisin for streetwalkers. Tip: leave your gun at home when committing a misdemeanor.

That cop needs better emotion control to say the least.

It would have been nice if dispatch had "informed" the cops when they first ran the plate.

***seanmac45*** · 07-20-2011, 20:20

I'm sure his defense attorney speaks the truth.

I have never known one to lie.

I have never been lied to by subjects involved in drug or pros transactions

I also believe in the tooth fairy.

cowboy1964 · 07-20-2011, 20:20

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Originally Posted by slickt0mmy

According to the man's attorney, he really did know the woman as he claimed. His story checks out. It's extremely fishy, but it checks out.

It checks out "according to the man's attorney"?

Hey, Casey Anthony's story must be true too then, huh?

Anyone know what time of night this occurred? And why the hell does a "dash cam" not have a clock display??

***seanmac45*** · 07-20-2011, 20:22

OF COURSE HE KNOWS HER.

She's his weekly date and her man is his weed supplier.

He was killing two birds with one visit to those two.

robbynola · 07-20-2011, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Zagato

driver was dumb and a total ***** for not informing the cop even when told not to speak. Driver cop was WAY out of line several times and should be fired. Seems like hes got some PTSD or anger problems. Bit of a loose cannon if you ask me. Gonna be interesting to see how this develops.

Agreed. That officer was way out of line throughout most of the encounter. The DA should drop the charge, as the officers were giving little opportunity for him to inform.

The second officer put himself in danger by not securing the driver before getting in there and searching. Hell, even without a gun, the guy could have just driven off with officer #2 hanging half out the vehicle.

I agree that the driver clearly appeared to be up to no good, but the duty to inform charge is due to the officers mishandling the situation, not to him purposefully not informing them.

If they would have had gone about things properly instead of being hot headed cowboys, they would have had a decent case for a solicitation charge. Now all they have is a charge that won't stick and the risk of disciplinary action.

If they would have gone about hings properly, and not been hotheaded cowboys, they would have had a decent case for a solicitation charge. Now they have close to nothing on the guy and are risking disciplinary action.

Both of those officers need to be reprimanded, and the driver needs to be let off with just his night in jail to teach him his lesson about picking up hookers while carrying.

***seanmac45*** · 07-20-2011, 20:27

I suppose you think he should keep his CCW license too?