[cowboy1964]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-...-street-legal/

Well, maybe not the ultimate. Add off-road capability and more payload and then you'd really have something.

[SFCSMITH(RET)]

Nope, not my cup of tea. But last month while camping/backpacking in the high Sierra, I did see the vehicle of my bug out dreams.. if I was going to bug out.

(Ubiquitous crappy cell phone pic excuse)

Sitting in the state park campground where we met my parents was this:





I never did see the people who owned it, so didn't get to see the layout, but info can be found here.. I think it's pretty near perfect. Appears to be completely self contained..

[jjslice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwy6nY78sZk

The Marauder

[Lawmaker]

Originally Posted by jjslice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwy6nY78sZk

The Marauder

Your video is blocked now.

[B.Reid]

[Glock940]

10 speed or a mountain bike

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by SFCSMITH(RET)

Nope, not my cup of tea. But last month while camping/backpacking in the high Sierra, I did see the vehicle of my bug out dreams.. if I was going to bug out.

(Ubiquitous crappy cell phone pic excuse)

Sitting in the state park campground where we met my parents was this:





I never did see the people who owned it, so didn't get to see the layout, but info can be found here.. I think it's pretty near perfect. Appears to be completely self contained..

I guess that is non hippie, American version of this.

[GunHo198]

If the SHTF I'm going to snag one of these. May as well be comfy...

http://laketahoerecreation.com/mega-rv/index.html

[SFCSMITH(RET)]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

I guess that is non hippie, American version of this.

Wife and I had a westy back in the day. In Germany. Was perfect for the two of us. We traveled all over Europe in it. That is why we liked the van above.. except for the price.. it's +20x's the price we paid for our little "hippie van".. We would get another westy here (just for close/short camp outs), except a nice one is crazy expensive due to the "collector" status.

[1 old 0311]

[GunHo198]

Originally Posted by 1 old 0311

[G29Reload]

http://www.roadtrek.com/

Aside from Shelter-in-Place, if I lived in FL or someplace like that, I'd own one
of these in a HURRY.

Not all that cheap, I think they're 40-60k plus.

But with motels unavailable for hundreds of miles around during a major evacuation, we're talking:

A clean comfortable bed of your own
Plenty of water storage
On-board AC
On-board generator, tapped into the gas tank for a fuel supply
Propane stove
Propane fridge/multi fuel: AC docked, 12vDC OTR-underway/propane while remote
MW
HOT SHOWER.

Just park for free in any WM parking lot, where you can stock up on chow and bevvies.

Bed, shower, meal, shelter, mobility and all the comforts of home. Heck you can even get a mobile DirectTv dish that can pull signal while underway! Life continues unabated.

No hunting for motels.
No sleeping in cars.
No filthy public restrooms.
No missing football or your favorite show.

Some of these even have flip out outdoor gas grills, and an outdoor swim shower.

Mileage might suck, not sure. Maybe they have a diesel one.

If I had the bucks, this is what I'd get. I visited a dealer in FL once and they were pretty impressive.

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by G29Reload

http://www.roadtrek.com/

Aside from Shelter-in-Place, if I lived in FL or someplace like that, I'd own one
of these in a HURRY.

Not all that cheap, I think they're 40-60k plus.

But with motels unavailable for hundreds of miles around during a major evacuation, we're talking:

A clean comfortable bed of your own
Plenty of water storage
On-board AC
On-board generator, tapped into the gas tank for a fuel supply
Propane stove
Propane fridge/multi fuel: AC docked, 12vDC OTR-underway/propane while remote
MW
HOT SHOWER.

Just park for free in any WM parking lot, where you can stock up on chow and bevvies.

Bed, shower, meal, shelter, mobility and all the comforts of home. Heck you can even get a mobile DirectTv dish that can pull signal while underway! Life continues unabated.

No hunting for motels.
No sleeping in cars.
No filthy public restrooms.
No missing football or your favorite show.

Some of these even have flip out outdoor gas grills, and an outdoor swim shower.

Mileage might suck, not sure. Maybe they have a diesel one.

If I had the bucks, this is what I'd get. I visited a dealer in FL once and they were pretty impressive.

I got to admit, cruising that site, I like them. It is a nice setup, and they look like any other van, so unlike a bigger RVs they don't scream " Someone has taken up residence." when parked in the same spot for more then a day.

Kind of a gross question coming but what is involved with emptying a septic tank in an RV. Its it just gravity or a manual pump, or do you need some sort of electric or engine power? It would be nice to have a totally self substainable Camper Van/RV. Maybe solar backup to run the water pump for the sink and shower if you are out of fuel. Waste water during a SHTF event could be pumped into a hole and buried I guess.

[cyrsequipment]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

. Waste water during a SHTF event could be pumped into a hole and buried I guess.

Or you could just open the tank at highway speeds... might keep people from tailgating...

[SFCSMITH(RET)]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

Kind of a gross question coming but what is involved with emptying a septic tank in an RV. Its it just gravity or a manual pump, or do you need some sort of electric or engine power? It would be nice to have a totally self substainable Camper Van/RV. Maybe solar backup to run the water pump for the sink and shower if you are out of fuel. Waste water during a SHTF event could be pumped into a hole and buried I guess.

It's called 'dumping". Pure gravity, although some people use a "macerator" which also acts as a pump.. but many campgrounds do not allow them. The process goes like this.. hook up sewer hose to camper and drain, dump "black water". Close valve, dump "grey water", close valve, while keeping hose elevated, disconnect from trailer, hold up, rinse with fresh water, dry/store hose until next time...

The water pump is 12v on every RV I have ever had or used. The concept of complete, long term, self suffeciency in a RV is known as "boondocking"

Here is a link if you want to read up on it, and what some people are doing..

[SFCSMITH(RET)]

Originally Posted by G29Reload

http://www.roadtrek.com/

Aside from Shelter-in-Place, if I lived in FL or someplace like that, I'd own one
of these in a HURRY.

Not all that cheap, I think they're 40-60k plus.

.

BTW, if you want to look locally, maybe even at used units, look for "B vans" That's what that style of camper is called. My brother got one a couple years ago for pretty cheap, had 10k miles on it.

[HotRoderX]

I think one of these would be useful in a SHTF situation http://crittergitters.net/

[cowboy1964]

The diesel RoadTreks get 20+ MPG. My freaking gas minivan barely gets that!

I'd like to have one of these RoadTreks just on principle but they ain't cheap. I could get a nice 30+ foot fifth wheel for that kind of money.

[RWBlue]

Originally Posted by SFCSMITH(RET)

Nope, not my cup of tea. But last month while camping/backpacking in the high Sierra, I did see the vehicle of my bug out dreams.. if I was going to bug out.

(Ubiquitous crappy cell phone pic excuse)

Sitting in the state park campground where we met my parents was this:





I never did see the people who owned it, so didn't get to see the layout, but info can be found here.. I think it's pretty near perfect. Appears to be completely self contained..

I like it, but would like something a little larger.

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by SFCSMITH(RET)

It's called 'dumping". Pure gravity, although some people use a "macerator" which also acts as a pump.. but many campgrounds do not allow them. The process goes like this.. hook up sewer hose to camper and drain, dump "black water". Close valve, dump "grey water", close valve, while keeping hose elevated, disconnect from trailer, hold up, rinse with fresh water, dry/store hose until next time...

The water pump is 12v on every RV I have ever had or used. The concept of complete, long term, self suffeciency in a RV is known as "boondocking"

Here is a link if you want to read up on it, and what some people are doing..

Thanks, you learn something new everyday.

[pugman]

Originally Posted by cowboy1964

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-...-street-legal/

Well, maybe not the ultimate. Add off-road capability and more payload and then you'd really have something.

Francisco Scaramanga would be proud

[G29Reload]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

Thanks, you learn something new everyday.

If you have a septic system at home, you could always dump it there when you get back.

I have a concrete stub out in the yard, you could back up next to it, flip the lid off and connect up a hose, or rollout one from the vehicle and let gravity do its magic.


No, I mean, I could back up to it. Not you. all you folks get off my lawn, it wasn't an invitation.

[Kadetklapp]

THIS is what I want-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...mZ260820085225

Affordable, plenty of storage, 4x4, can run it on waste motor oil or whatever else I can scrounge.

[G29Reload]

Here is ANOTHER option. Reasonable, well affordable enough, may be too much for what it is, some prices I've seen in the 10k range.

Smallest one can actually be towed by a motorcycle or a civic.

Drop top flathead, but not a tent model. Almost mandatory in bear country.

Also the hardtop makes it winterable and it can have a propane heater.
One of the bigger models has an indoor shower. Several have outdoor showers.

Great flexibility option:

http://www.aliner.com/campers

[FAS1]

This would do anything that I would need.

http://sportsmobile.com