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07-17-2011, 13:27
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WASR Safety
The safety on my WASR-10 is really stiff. If i would replace it with an aftermarket from Krebs or K-var would it be silky smooth?
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07-17-2011, 15:00
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Just bend it out a little bit.
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07-17-2011, 21:26
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i was thinking of picking up a safety with a index finger shelf and i dont want to buy it if its going to be as rough as the stock safety.
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07-17-2011, 23:09
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Timber Baron
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Take off the dust cover, rotate the safety so the lever is vertical, and bend it out a bit. Rotate down and repeat until it is to your liking.
And no, don't ask about the scratch on the side of the receiver. It is meant to be there.
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07-18-2011, 14:20
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Tackleberry
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The safety with the index finger shelf is not so much smoother as it is more ergonomic. This makes up for some of the "discomfort" of the factory safety. If you really want a smoother safety lever then you're going to have to flip the lever back and forth a few hundred times to loosen it up a little.
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07-18-2011, 14:25
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Buy the Krebs and bend it to your liking. While you're at it get the trigger pin retaining plate. Best two accessories I've put on my WASR
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07-18-2011, 19:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasNativeDRJH
Buy the Krebs and bend it to your liking. While you're at it get the trigger pin retaining plate. Best two accessories I've put on my WASR
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I wouldn't spend the $$ on Kreb's overpriced items. Try the bending trick just a little and lube & manipulate the lever many times to get the tension you want. I'd also think twice about the retaining plate. Even though the plate makes disassembly a snap, it does not hold both pins stationary and they can rotate and key-hole the holes in the reciever. I thought about getting plates for my AK's, but decided to stick with the crook that holds the pins solid. Easier to replace pins & hammers & triggers, than to worry about the receiver. Carolina Shooting Supply sells a crook that holds the pins solid, but is installed opposite of your standard crook, and is as easy as using a plate. Bought some weeks ago and it is a great add-on.
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07-19-2011, 04:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperR
I wouldn't spend the $$ on Kreb's overpriced items. Try the bending trick just a little and lube & manipulate the lever many times to get the tension you want. I'd also think twice about the retaining plate. Even though the plate makes disassembly a snap, it does not hold both pins stationary and they can rotate and key-hole the holes in the reciever. I thought about getting plates for my AK's, but decided to stick with the crook that holds the pins solid. Easier to replace pins & hammers & triggers, than to worry about the receiver. Carolina Shooting Supply sells a crook that holds the pins solid, but is installed opposite of your standard crook, and is as easy as using a plate. Bought some weeks ago and it is a great add-on.
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07-19-2011, 08:06
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07-19-2011, 09:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperR
I wouldn't spend the $$ on Kreb's overpriced items. Try the bending trick just a little and lube & manipulate the lever many times to get the tension you want. I'd also think twice about the retaining plate. Even though the plate makes disassembly a snap, it does not hold both pins stationary and they can rotate and key-hole the holes in the reciever. I thought about getting plates for my AK's, but decided to stick with the crook that holds the pins solid. Easier to replace pins & hammers & triggers, than to worry about the receiver. Carolina Shooting Supply sells a crook that holds the pins solid, but is installed opposite of your standard crook, and is as easy as using a plate. Bought some weeks ago and it is a great add-on.
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You lost me on that one ....
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07-19-2011, 14:53
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Yup, you lost me too! I wrestled with the stock hairpin and then picked up a set of plates and haven't looked back. As far as keyholing, I don't think anyone of us will fire that many rounds through a single AK(M) short of an apocolypse.
While Carlos has admonished me regarding the use of plates instead of hairpins, I confess to being lazier than he is. Or perhaps he has skinnier fingers, since I am un Mexicano gordo with very fat fingers....
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
On a serious note, the plates are fine for the type of use most of us put these guns to, and are much easier to manipulate, especially for newbies. But keep a set of hairpins just the same.
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07-19-2011, 15:46
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tried the bend out and didnt really seem to affect it. i feel like the tightness isn't from the lever rubbing against the reciever but where the safety is coming through its pin hole. i have actuated safeties from brand new arsenals and they are much smoother.
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07-19-2011, 17:40
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You will need a Dremmel with a thin wheel.
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07-19-2011, 18:27
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Try an original safety that costs about $12, compared to Kreb's $69 part. Those can be had at www.robertrtg.com He sells all original parts from/for AK's.
As far as the shepherds crook, I get mine from www.carolinashooterssupply.com
They do sell the plate, but you have to understand the stamped receiver is made of softer metal for the bending process and the pins are harder material. The softer always wears the most. And if you look close, you will see drilling burrs from the inside of the reciever that will not smooth out, but key-hole in various directions because of the random drill burrs. Best to keep the holes and the part of the pin in that area as stationary as possible. CSS's crook works opposite of the standard and they have a video of the process. Easier than the standard, but a little harder than the plate. I think it's worth it. My AK's go thru approx 500 rounds each per week, so I'm fine with my pins staying stationary with the crook.
Also, when I work on an AK, I always remoive the standard crook from the mag well and never bother with trying to press down on the trigger side of the crook wire. CSS's crook is a mirror of standard and is attacked from the trigger side.
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07-21-2011, 16:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fkizdi
tried the bend out and didnt really seem to affect it. i feel like the tightness isn't from the lever rubbing against the reciever but where the safety is coming through its pin hole. i have actuated safeties from brand new arsenals and they are much smoother.
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FKIZDI, its probably as easy as taking some wet/dry sandpaper, 600 grit or whatever you like and sand the little button that comes through the hole on the outside radius of the button. Not the flat part you look at when it comes through the hole.
After the first step is completed, move on to the little button that rubs along your receiver and gives the stereotypical AK receiver scratch. You can sand this part slightly too.
After you do try/do those little tweaks, apply a little lube to the nub that comes through the receiver and see if that improves the "tightness" you're experiencing.
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