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Old 07-20-2011, 04:58   #1
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Open carry caused this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPnPu7gcJxs


Wow. He's my hero.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZFzH5Oe-YL4
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:02   #2
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Just saw this myself, MAJOR props to the officer. The way he approached the situation was amazing. The guy filming comes off as a jerk.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:04   #3
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Wow. He's my hero.
He's (assuming you mena Captain OpenCarry) more my idea of an urban idiot. I am embarrassed that he owns a gun and has no more common sense than he does.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:18   #4
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He's (assuming you mena Captain OpenCarry) more my idea of an urban idiot. I am embarrassed that he owns a gun and has no more common sense than he does.

Haha, no. I was referring to Officer Lyons. He was polite, professional, and very knowledgeable about the law. He was friendly while doing his job and used this to try and obtain info "Jeremy" wasn't required to give. He knew CA doesn't have stop and ID requirements and politely kept asking in a friendly manner trying to obtain ID. I respect that he didn't demand it - it's the citizen's job to know what is legally required of him.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:51   #5
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:40   #6
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It is gun owners like this that give us a bad name. I believe that acts like this won't help if anything it will hurt as it only proves that there are morons with guns out there and better control will need to be taken.

I'm from NY, this would have gone down very differently around here.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:52   #7
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Officer handled the matter very well. The other fellow did nothing wrong. There is not reason for anyone to have to justify why they exercise their Constitutional rights. No one would consider such a question ("Why do you have/are you carrying...?" etc.) legitimate if asked of a writer, reporter, etc.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:08   #8
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Asking him questions, usually neutral questions like that is a way of just getting a conversation going, and to build raport with whoever they are talking to.

We can agree that the holder is an idiot, but this being posted is about recognizing the way that the officer handled the situation.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:18   #9
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The guy filming comes off as a jerk.
I do not think he came off as a jerk. He was respectful and asserted his rights.

The Cop was awesome I must say.
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We can agree that the holder is an idiot, but this being posted is about recognizing the way that the officer handled the situation.
Why waht do you think he was doing that was being idiotic. Seemed like he was walking down the street. Was stopped by a cop for no apparent reason and questioned. he was respectful and direct.
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It is gun owners like this that give us a bad name. I believe that acts like this won't help if anything it will hurt as it only proves that there are morons with guns out there and better control will need to be taken.

I'm from NY, this would have gone down very differently around here.
Why would it need to?
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:25   #12
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why can't ALLLL cops be like him?
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:25   #13
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No one would consider such a question ("Why do you have/are you carrying...?" etc.) legitimate if asked of a writer, reporter, etc.
They wouldn't? So if some non-LE person asked you why you're carrying a gun you'd act like a paranoid nutcase, like the guy in the video?

Unfortunately for those who act like OC-man was perfectly normal, that may say more about you than about him.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:35   #14
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Jeremy is obviously an attention whore......

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Old 07-20-2011, 07:53   #15
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Why waht do you think he was doing that was being idiotic. Seemed like he was walking down the street. Was stopped by a cop for no apparent reason and questioned. he was respectful and direct.
It wasnt his responses to the officer that I think were stupid, it was more of his decision to OC. He states that he is a Marine, and that this is in Oceanside, so I can very safely assume that they are in San Diego, an extremely populated city. Oceanside is also right next to Camp Pendleton, home of 1ST Marine Division, and many, MANY other military units.

OC in such a densely populated place, where pretty much everyone around you knows how to work firearms. Whats stopping anyone from just... taking it from that guy? I really doubt he had a III holster, and im pretty sure anyone thats worked with a pistol knows to press in the tab on an OC holster.

Im not saying that OC is a bad thing, but this Marine did not really think out what was going to be going on around him. OC in the middle of a dense city like San Diego? Stupid idea...
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:56   #16
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Haha this guy is probably going to feel like a moron when the people on all the gun forums he frequents think he is the ****** and the big bad policeman is actually polite and informed. He will probably keep doing this until he gets the response he is searching for though. I tip my hat to the officer though. He did make the video worth watching.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:11   #17
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That's how all police should be polite direct informed and respectful. Cheers to him!
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:08   #18
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Poor "Jeremy". I'm sure that wasn't the result he was hoping for. No payday for Jerkemy, uh, I mean Jeremy.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:12   #19
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Why waht do you think he was doing that was being idiotic. Seemed like he was walking down the street. Was stopped by a cop for no apparent reason and questioned. he was respectful and direct.
I always wear my video camera behind my spare mags.....really the fact that he had a camera with him states the obvious. He's an idiot looking for a fight. I think its great the way the officer handled it, taking the wind out of his sails. Yes it's his right to carry, but given his obivous looking for a conflict, I agree, he gives gun owners a bad name.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:16   #20
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The fellow being questioned is the quintessential masculine biological appendage. He should not be allowed to breed.
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