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Old 08-03-2011, 18:40   #26
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Petition the Supreme Court of Ohio with a writ of certiorari and hope the Supreme Court sides with gun owners on this. Otherwise, there will be sections of Ohio where the precedent is that weed possession = no guns. It's not binding nationwide, and it surely hasn't passed Supreme Court of Ohio constitutional muster.
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Old 08-03-2011, 18:58   #27
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Some folks feel it's their Constitutional right to smoke dope, and stay high or drunk.....Guess I missed that part in the Constitution.

Personally, I don't want to be around drunks or stoners who are handling firearms.
The Constitution doesn't "grant" rights. It just protects them. Not everything that a person (should) have the right to do is spelled out in the constitution.
I think it is a god given, natural right for a person to put whatever they want into their own body. Now, if what they put into their body causes them to commit some other crime or act harmful to another...then there should be repercussions. But I don't know where anyone gets off telling another person what he can't put in his body, be it a drug, a bullet, or a dong...it's no one else's business.
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Old 08-03-2011, 20:31   #28
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The Constitution doesn't "grant" rights. It just protects them. Not everything that a person (should) have the right to do is spelled out in the constitution.
I think it is a god given, natural right for a person to put whatever they want into their own body. Now, if what they put into their body causes them to commit some other crime or act harmful to another...then there should be repercussions. But I don't know where anyone gets off telling another person what he can't put in his body, be it a drug, a bullet, or a dong...it's no one else's business.
You're completely off the mark.....I never made any comment or implied the Constitution "granted" rights. If someone wants to blow their brains out, sniff glue, smoke weed, mainline heroin, drink rubbing alcohol, that's their choice, it doesn't change my life, and they're free to do as they want.

But, if they're handling firearms or driving a car stoned, high, or drunk out of their mind, then it becomes an issue with me and can impact my life when they negligently discharge a firearm or cause a wreck while stoned.

And there are many stoners and reefer brains out there who will wrongly tell you it's their Constitutional "right" to smoke weed. I've seen some of them post on GT in the past.
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Old 08-03-2011, 20:46   #29
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You're completely off the mark.....I never made any comment or implied the Constitution "granted" rights. If someone wants to blow their brains out, sniff glue, smoke weed, mainline heroin, drink rubbing alcohol, that's their choice, it doesn't change my life, and they're free to do as they want.

But, if they're handling firearms or driving a car stoned, high, or drunk out of their mind, then it becomes an issue with me and can impact my life when they negligently discharge a firearm or cause a wreck while stoned.

And there are many stoners and reefer brains out there who will wrongly tell you it's their Constitutional "right" to smoke weed. I've seen some of them post on GT in the past.
I never said I wanted drunk or high people carrying guns high or driving high or drunk. I've never smoked pot. But in the 7 or 8 years I've had my carry permit I've been drunk a handfull of times. Maybe 5? I didn't cause any trouble or go out driving or with my gun. I think people should have the same choice to enjoy pot responsibly. If they don't use it irresponsibly then it shouldn't be a reason to remove their right to self defense.

And you can keep your upeyes. I just disagreed with you. I wasn't rude or insulting.

You pointed out that there's no Constitutional right to smoke weed. I was just pointing out that just because it isn't enumerated doesn't mean it doesn't or shouldn't exist. I know now that you knew that. You'd be surprised at how many don't.
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