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Old 07-27-2011, 22:56   #21
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There were reports of sporadic sniping events and at least one shoot-out with casualties on a bridge.
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Danziger Bridge defendant told to file informal report on police shooting
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:16   #22
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:05   #23
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Danziger Bridge defendant told to file informal report on police shooting
Published: Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:25 PM
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I did not realize the trial was in progress.

For the group.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ings_defe.html


Read the testimony. I find it surprising. The officer did not distinguish a specific threat before he started firing.

He also did not check on the wounded civilians after the shooting stopped.

http://www.nola.com/news/wide/index....Bridge.pdf?825
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:10   #24
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Yeah, I haven't kept up with it at all, just by coincidence I ran across that link a few days ago, but I can't remember where I found it.
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Old 07-28-2011, 14:43   #25
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Old 07-28-2011, 16:11   #26
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The "searchers" ta begin with and the "searchees" would be next.'08.























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Old 07-28-2011, 16:14   #27
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After what happened during Katrina, The house passed the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act (The Vitter Admendment) making gun grabbing during a disaster illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitter_Amendment

The problem was there was too many Chiefs, and way too many out of state Indians, during a major SHTF event.
There are local State and Federal laws stating in a bankruptcy bond holders get paid FIRST. Hussein ignored them ALL and paid unions.

There are local State and federal laws about Straw Purchases. Hussein's people ignored those.

There are local State and Federal laws about felons purchasing firearms. Hussein's people ignored those.

There are laws protecting you from being locked up without trial. 120,000 Jap/Americans can tell you how that went.

ANY LAW is just a "EXECUTIVE ORDER" away from the trash can.
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Old 07-28-2011, 16:26   #28
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I would treat any out of state cop the same as I would a Blue Helmeted UN Frenchman.
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Old 07-28-2011, 18:48   #29
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Very interesting stuff.

I can't even remember why i asked this. But man - even if martial law is declared....if I'm in my home, minding my business, wow...

I'm all about helping the LEO any way i can. But wow....I'd have to draw the line somewhere.

And as mentioned - dang, how could you carry out that order.

If I defended my rights and it resulted in officers killed, I'm thinking Supreme Court is where that case will end up.

I would put my faith in them. They are notorius for making decisions based doing the right thing and eff Congress/Dems/Repubs/Pres.

I just can't see ANY thing that makes the confiscation ok.
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Old 07-28-2011, 18:57   #30
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I would like to add that some LEO refused to confiscate firearms.

They deserve to be commended but will probably never be recognized for making a personal stand against the order.
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Old 07-28-2011, 19:23   #31
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I would treat any out of state cop the same as I would a Blue Helmeted UN Frenchman.
Slap him and refuse to let him change his diaper...?
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I'll tell you right now if the authorities ever came knocking on our doors for a gun grab where I live...somebody is gonna get whacked! Anyone who lets the governoring body take away their protection ( provided you are not threatening anyone or breaking the law) is a damn fool. That is what keeps us for being overun by our own government. I still blame the local government, Geo. W. Bush and FEMA for that slow response during Katrina. This country is quick to get help to other countries in that situiation but lets its own "taxpaying" citizens wait for help.....Thats just ....BS!...and the powers to be let it happen.
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Old 07-29-2011, 14:36   #33
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I'll tell you right now if the authorities ever came knocking on our doors for a gun grab where I live...somebody is gonna get whacked! Anyone who lets the governoring body take away their protection ( provided you are not threatening anyone or breaking the law) is a damn fool. That is what keeps us for being overun by our own government. I still blame the local government, Geo. W. Bush and FEMA for that slow response during Katrina. This country is quick to get help to other countries in that situiation but lets its own "taxpaying" citizens wait for help.....Thats just ....BS!...and the powers to be let it happen.
As much as I am a non-Bush fan (President, The band, Excessive Pubes, whatever...):

The OFFICIAL rule is the state MUST request assistance. If I was the shell shocked dumb@$$ idiot deer-in-the-headlights governor, I'd be leaving the country of embarrassment and shame that I sat there and did jack in the face of Mother Nature with a sledgehammer.

As long as we are discussing the "rules" in this thread.

But yes - no excuse for not sounding the "get ready" bell LONG before the request was sent in spite of said governor.

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Old 07-29-2011, 15:56   #34
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I think this pretty much sums it up:

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If I defended my rights and it resulted in officers killed, I'm thinking Supreme Court is where that case will end up. .


Right or wrong, I don't think you'll be ending up in the SC, I think the grave is much more likely.
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:24   #37
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Yes and no.


We know some of what happened. There are lots of things that went on, that aren't public knowledge, things that were covered up, swept under the rug, or simply never reported.


Like I said, we'll never know the whole story of what went on.

There was good, there was bad.
I don't remember any good?
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I actually asked in Cop Talk or somewhere else what a citizen should do and it turned out that, although a cop might be doing something illegal, you still cannot legally shoot them in self-defense. Instead you are to hand over your guns and comply, then pray the case doesn't get buried in civil court later on...

Now if our founding fathers had done that, I'm pretty sure we'd all be subjects and speaking in funny accents.

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The POS who made that statement finally resigned amid scandal and numerous federal probes, one of which is the Danziger Bridge case.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...oubled_ne.html

He was also the idiot who was photographed with Nagin pointing an AR at him.

I can't find a link to the story but I believe there was also a scandal b/c Reily was actually honeymooning out of town during the Katrina aftermath.
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I don't remember any good?

I seem to remember a whole lot of aid, search and rescue, and relief efforts. Seems all of those were good things........
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