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Old 08-01-2011, 11:57   #1
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Bank Vaults as Bunkers in Post SHTF?

I was wondering if these are as fortified as people believe? Would you really survive a nuke like in the Twilight Zone episode? Are they air tight and thus unusable when sealed? Can you get out from the inside if the door has been closed and locked? Banks are everywhere. There's a good chance you'll be near one when the SHTF.

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Old 08-01-2011, 12:16   #2
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:33   #3
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Bank vaults are not perfectly airtight but they are enough that if you get locked in you could run out of air. They are not perfectly airtight in that water will creep in if there is a flood but there are not enough air holes to keep you alive I believe.

My background is disaster recovery and we used to tell the branch banks to have on hand duck tape, rubber gloves and pertroleum jelly. Those would be used to help seal the cracks around the door to prevent or slow water from getting in during a flood to protect the safety deposit boxes.

One branch bank officer said duck tape, rubber gloves and petroleum jelly are what they had on hand when the auditors came but for a different reason.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:39   #4
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Bank vaults are not perfectly airtight but they are enough that if you get locked in you could run out of air. They are not perfectly airtight in that water will creep in if there is a flood but there are not enough air holes to keep you alive I believe.

My background is disaster recovery and we used to tell the branch banks to have on hand duck tape, rubber gloves and pertroleum jelly. Those would be used to help seal the cracks around the door to prevent or slow water from getting in during a flood to protect the safety deposit boxes.

One branch bank officer said duck tape, rubber gloves and petroleum jelly are what they had on hand when the auditors came but for a different reason.
Interesting.

Another question: can vault doors be secured from the inside or are the locking mechanisms only on the outside?
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:47   #5
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I was wondering if these are as fortified as people believe? Would you really survive a nuke like in the Twilight Zone episode? Are they air tight and thus unusable when sealed? Can you get out from the inside if the door has been closed and locked? Banks are everywhere. There's a good chance you'll be near one when the SHTF.

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It won't matter.

I'm in my bank and a news flash comes across both major metro areas 30-40 miles each side of me were just nuked so I head to the vault.

I will be dead in 3-4 days without water. Depending on the prevailing wind (in this case West to East) there could be lethal radioactive zones up to a month.

On the upside...my small credit union is completely staffed with ladies....and 5 of the 6 would be considered "yummy." I might die but I would have a smile on my mug
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Old 08-01-2011, 17:24   #7
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It won't matter.

I'm in my bank and a new flash comes across both major metro areas 30-40 miles each side of me were just nuked so I head to the vault.

I will be dead in 3-4 days without water. Depending on the prevailing wind (in this case West to East) there could be lethal radioactive zones up to a month.

On the upside...my small credit union is completely staffed with ladies....and 5 of the 6 would be considered "yummy." I might die but I would have a smile on my mug
Yeah, but that's not the scenario I was thinking of. I was considering them for use as bug in locations. But if I knew a nuke went off I think I'd still hop in the closest one.
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You cant open bank vaults from the inside. They are on a timed locking mechanism where the closing staff will set the timer until the next day of business. When the timed lock is set, not even bank staff can open the vault.

If someone does get locked in, there is a hole in the vault door; about the size of a 50 cent piece, that can supply enough air to sustain life. Some vaults have a little fan by the hole that will blow air into the vault and some don't. My old banks had both. I would not consider a bank vault a good place to hide out.
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Old 08-01-2011, 17:52   #9
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You cant open bank vaults from the inside. They are on a timed locking mechanism where the closing staff will set the timer until the next day of business. When the timed lock is set, not even bank staff can open the vault.

If someone does get locked in, there is a hole in the vault door; about the size of a 50 cent piece, that can supply enough air to sustain life. Some vaults have a little fan by the hole that will blow air into the vault and some don't. My old banks had both. I would not consider a bank vault a good place to hide out.
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Old 08-01-2011, 18:07   #10
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Terrible there are signs on the door about no guns allowed. So you have to leave your guns in the car to go into the bank...........................
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Terrible there are signs on the door about no guns allowed. So you have to leave your guns in the car to go into the bank...........................
Not in VA and a lot of states.


A bank vault would be an excellent blast shelter. Theres a difference between "blast" and fallout.

Lacking anything else, I'd jump in the vault if I could after seeing aflash in the distance. After that, it depends on which way the wind blows.
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It would be temporary at best if everything worked out as above. Think about the location of the bank vault relative to everything else in the bank. You are in the back in a pretty restricted corridor and if you are back there, who is going to secure the outside such as the exterior doors, lobby or any other area in the bank?

Absent a nuclear blast, say some other intermediate scenario such as riots or zombies or whatnot, you are not in a good place, defensively. You are actually boxing yourself in one of the worst ways possible. Someone can just smoke you out or just wait you out until you die of starvation even if you have air.
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So, how were we planning on getting into the vault?
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So, how were we planning on getting into the vault?
Details...details...

I'm going to use the teleporter on my spaceship....
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Details...details...

I'm going to use the teleporter on my spaceship....
HA!!!

You haven't thought this out, have you?

Everyone knows teleporter technology is not perfect and sometimes it will merge your dna with a fly and you will be screwed!
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HA!!!

You haven't thought this out, have you?

Everyone knows teleporter technology is not perfect and sometimes it will merge your dna with a fly and you will be screwed!
What makes you think I haven't already had my DNA mergeds with a fly...

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What makes you think I haven't already had my DNA mergeds with a fly...

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Because flies can't type.
I still have my fingers.... for now.

I think I'll still be able to type with my legs, won't be much slower than I type now anyway...
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After working in a bank for 3 years, no thanks. I will stay outside. It has a completely seperate mechanism for bringing in air if you were to be stuck inside. It is independent of the door. I guess I just spent too much time in the darn thing, it was BIG with 3 rooms. Customers only saw the safe deposit box room. We had a customer go down with a heart attack in the vault and DIED there. Something they don't tell you on TV when you die like that all your bodily fluids -not blood- other stuff come out of your orifices, not a nice site, especialy when you are a 19 yr old tasked to clean it all up. So no, I don't like bank vaults.
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