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Old 08-16-2011, 21:25   #1
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9mm Major Brass any recommendations?

Just wondering if I should specifically chose a brand of new brass when loading 9mm major.

Happy using once fired brass for 9mm minor, but going to buy new brass for 9mm major, any brand suggestions?
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Old 08-16-2011, 21:40   #2
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ANything BUT Federal. Starline has a good product, when I buy new, it's usually Starline for any caliber.
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Old 08-16-2011, 22:23   #3
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Winchester 9x23 brass. Kidding. Kind of. Did the 9mm major thing. Like hot 38 Super, but especially my 9x23 Winchester best.

What Fred said.
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Old 08-16-2011, 22:40   #4
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Starline or Top Brass for new. Federal brass sucks for everything, unless it's .40 S&W and in Koski's possession.

I run 9mm Major at sub +P pressure for my local shooters using fired brass.
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Old 08-18-2011, 15:50   #5
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I use Win brass in my G34 open Gun. KKM barrel and 4 port comp. Using Silhouette and HS-6 powder, Win sp, MG 121 IFP, 1.145 OAL.

No Problems w/the brass.
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Old 08-18-2011, 17:06   #6
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Just wondering if I should specifically chose a brand of new brass when loading 9mm major.

Happy using once fired brass for 9mm minor, but going to buy new brass for 9mm major, any brand suggestions?
Doesn't buying new brass for 9Major kinda defeat the purpose of 9Major. Might as well get 38Super Comp.
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Old 08-18-2011, 18:32   #7
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Doesn't buying new brass for 9Major kinda defeat the purpose of 9Major. Might as well get 38Super Comp.
at the moment I only have a 9mm and would cost a bit to change to 38 super
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What kind of gun are you going to use?

I tried using an old G17L, and all was fine except anything loaded over about 1.139" and you absolutely HAD to fire that round once it was chambered. A longer loaded round wouldn't eject; the bullet would hang up and no fiddling could get the loaded round out without dropping the slide and just shooting it down range.

Pay attention to listed COAL when you're using data for 9mm major.
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Old 08-18-2011, 20:53   #9
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will be using LWD G17L upper and ported barrel

thanx for all the info
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Old 08-18-2011, 22:24   #10
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Pay attention to listed COAL when you're using data for 9mm major.
Yup. Glocks like short OAL. I prefer my shooters to use 1911s with 9mm Major. Just a better platform all around for the task.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:30   #11
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I've got tons of once-fired WWB so use that for my 9mm major needs. Good for 3-5 reloads before primer pockets get a bit loose. I shoot and let fly during a tournament. I use a COAL of 1.150" in my Glocks and get excellent feeding, accuracy and a bit lower pressures.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:46   #12
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I too buy Starline any time I need new brass. Great quality, and
here is what they say about 9mm +P brass.

9MM+P has no difference from the standard 9mm Luger other than headstamp designation for load segregation. Due to standard case design, it will handle +P pressures with no problems.

So, you can use regular Starline 9mm brass and feel safe with hotter loads. Good stuff.
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Old 09-02-2011, 19:53   #13
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I'm on my second use of a big lot of once-fired R-P. I bought it because it was what I could get, I would happily use any major headstamp (including the much-maligned Federal).

Buying new brass for 9 Major seems silly, but if you must I would get Starline, no question.

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Old 09-02-2011, 23:23   #14
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Never found the need to actually BUY 9mm brass, since my range is open to the public on weekends. There's plenty of folks who come to blast off a few hundred rounds & they don't handload. I've got a generous supply of once fired brass that I sort into groups by manufacturer.

If you're toying with 9mm major at potentially dangerous pressures, it's a smart idea to either use new or once fired brass & sort it for use by manufacturer.

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Old 09-02-2011, 23:55   #15
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Is 9mm major kinda like wearing a short sleeve dress shirt?
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:57   #16
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No, it's more like eating beans AND broccoli at the same meal.
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Old 09-03-2011, 22:48   #17
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I did all of the experimentation/load work for my 9Major using new brass. Found that with the right powder, it's not necessary.
I start with once fired, usually Rem. or Win. & get 4 loadings with no problems.
The key here is to use a heavy bullet, if you go 9 Major with less than a 124 gr bullet, your pressures are gonzo.
I use a 147, get fantastic accuracy & am using LESS than the listed max loading of Vhit. 3N38, & making major within SAAMI pressure specs, hence the great brass life.
My Glock is limited by it's magazines as far as C.O.A.L. & I use a 1.147".
3 of my mags will work with longer (1.155") but sorting ammo for mags is stupid !
And the 147gr is a sure thing on steel poppers !

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Old 09-03-2011, 23:05   #18
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I found if I went longer than about 1.135" - 1.139" in my G17, loaded rounds wouldn't eject from the chamber but would hang up and tie up the gun. I had to count the rounds for each stage and only load exactly what I needed to run the stage... or fire the extra round downrange to empty the gun.

Found out the hard way on that. YMMV
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I found if I went longer than about 1.135" - 1.139" in my G17, loaded rounds wouldn't eject from the chamber but would hang up and tie up the gun. I had to count the rounds for each stage and only load exactly what I needed to run the stage... or fire the extra round downrange to empty the gun.

Found out the hard way on that. YMMV
Something is wrong with your gun.

I've loaded as long as 1.155" for my G17, and loading Bear Creek Molys to 1.145" for it now. WWB are right at 1.160" and I shot 4-5000 of those before starting to reload. How many people are there who don't reload and have no problems with that? I never had an issue.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:39   #20
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I use WCC brass for Major 9. After the third or fourth reload, they go in the scrap bin.
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I found if I went longer than about 1.135" - 1.139" in my G17, loaded rounds wouldn't eject from the chamber but would hang up and tie up the gun. I had to count the rounds for each stage and only load exactly what I needed to run the stage... or fire the extra round downrange to empty the gun.

Found out the hard way on that. YMMV
You might need to have your chamber throated for your profile of bullets.
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The chamber isn't the problem, both my race gun & my stock(HAHA) G34 can handle the 1.160" SAAMI spec. It's the magazines that are the limiting factor.
I agree with ron59, something might be wrong with the gun.
You're not running one of those silly plastic buffers, ARE YOU ??
The only thing a buffer does in a Glock is lighten your wallet !
If you're running a buffer & an aftermarket spring/guide rod, throw them both away & try it back stock.
I work in a gunshop, I'm the resident "GlockGeek", & I see more Glocks that malfunction because of aftermarket parts that are an "improvement" of O.E.M.

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Old 09-05-2011, 03:42   #23
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For 9mm major, I use once-fired Winchester brass, and after it's fired at major pf, only use it for minor loads.
Whenever I buy new pistol brass, it's Starline.
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Something is wrong with your gun.

I've loaded as long as 1.155" for my G17, and loading Bear Creek Molys to 1.145" for it now. WWB are right at 1.160" and I shot 4-5000 of those before starting to reload. How many people are there who don't reload and have no problems with that? I never had an issue.

Nothing was wrong with my gun. I don't know if the newer 9mm Glocks have a larger ejection port area or not. This was in about 1988 or so. But I'm telling you, anything loaded longer than 1.135-1.139 was too long for my chamber. I was loading 147 grain Speer fmj.

As soon as I started loading to 1.135" everything ran 100%
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Nothing was wrong with my gun. I don't know if the newer 9mm Glocks have a larger ejection port area or not. This was in about 1988 or so. But I'm telling you, anything loaded longer than 1.135-1.139 was too long for my chamber. I was loading 147 grain Speer fmj.

As soon as I started loading to 1.135" everything ran 100%
Nothing wrong with your gun. I'm sure it is the bullet profile of the reloads you as producing, too large of an ogive. I'm pretty sure it will load WWB at 1.160-1.169 just fine.
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