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Old 08-25-2014, 12:29   #1
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NH gun license form must change, critics say

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August 23. 2014 11:16PM
NH gun license form must change, critics say
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By SHAWNE K. WICKHAM
New Hampshire Sunday News

The Department of Safety has agreed to remove some - but not all - of the changes to the concealed-carry gun license form that angered gun-rights advocates earlier this month.

But that's not good enough, some say.

State law bars someone from carrying a loaded pistol or revolver in a vehicle or concealed on his person (except at his home or business) without a license.

And RSA 159:6 says local officials "shall issue" a license "if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to the applicant's person or property or has any proper purpose, and that the applicant is a suitable person to be licensed. Hunting, target shooting, or self-defense shall be considered a proper purpose."
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"Proper purpose" and "suitable person" are not further defined. And that's the crux of the controversy over the new license form.

Until recently, the reverse side of the form included a summary of "salient points" in state gun laws, including this: "Applicants not prohibited under federal or NH law from possession of a firearm shall be deemed suitable persons and the license shall be issued unless the applicant is so prohibited from possessing a firearm."

However, the New Hampshire Supreme Court in May found that the Department of Safety had no authority to include such language, which does not appear in the statutes. So the department changed the license form, replacing the language on its reverse with the actual state laws.

Now gun-rights advocates are making a similar argument, contending that state officials had no authority to change the license application.
They want the old form restored, including that previous language.Rep. JR Hoell, R-Dunbarton, who serves as secretary of New Hampshire Firearms Coalition, said his meeting with Sweeney was "cordial" but he isn't satisfied.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...0829458/0/news

I often have the discussion with folks from NH why doesn't Vermont issue permits and this is a very good analogy of why.

In Vermont if you can own a gun you can carry a gun,your choice Open or Concealed,you need permission from No one.
Just as the founders intended. SJ 40

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Old 08-25-2014, 20:09   #2
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In Vermont if you can own a gun you can carry a gun,your choice Open or Concealed,you need permission from No one.
Just as the founders intended. SJ 40
THIS is how it should be in every state! And no FELON exclusion. Reevaluate grounds for forbidding gun ownership. If you cannot be trusted with a gun, you cannot be on the street.
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Old 08-27-2014, 20:10   #3
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New Hampshire: Concealed controversy

The NH state Department of Safety created a controversy this summer by changing some language on the state’s concealed carry license application. The language seemed to imply that the department has wide discretion when deciding who gets concealed carry permits. The controversy raised a very important question about the state’s concealed carry license: Why do we have one?

Read the article: The New Hampshire Union Leader

http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...ON01/140829292

If that is so, then why bother with the process? Just let all legal gun owners carry concealed. If that is not so (the only reason to have a licensing process is to bar some legal gun owners from carrying concealed), then we have a state law that grants government officials the easily abused power to decide whether citizens are “suitable” for concealed carry. Vermont has a simpler process, which is that there is no process. That state has no prohibition on carrying concealed. No one has to ask the government’s permission. If you legally own a gun, you can legally carry concealed. It works for Vermont. It can work for the “Live free or die” state, too.

" The controversy raised a very important question about the state’s concealed carry license: Why do we have one?" Good question,it's been working in Vermont since 1791 and before.
Come on N. H. go the Constitutional carry and live up to the motto Live Free Or Die. SJ 40
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