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Old 08-28-2011, 14:06   #1
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rainer bullets

I currently have one Glock. Hard times had to sell stuff. Anyway I'm back full swing into shooting and reloading. I have a Glock 30. This morning while digging through a bunch of reloading stuff I came across 500 or so rainer 230g bullets. Is it safe to shoot rainer bullets in Glock? I've always loaded fmj bullets for my Glock. My understanding is lead is a no no. But what about plated bullets?

Sorry if this is a repetitive question.
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Old 08-28-2011, 14:13   #2
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Plated bullets are fine to shoot in a Glock. Don't load them hot though.
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Old 08-28-2011, 16:06   #3
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Keep the velocity under 1,200 FPS and should be good to go. As for lead in Glocks my G22 and G20 likes lead, just have to use hard cast and run them at the right FPS.
I shoot lead, plated and jacketed bullets thru my Glocks.
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Old 08-28-2011, 17:28   #4
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Keep the velocity under 1,200 FPS and should be good to go.
Bigboreguns, if you manage to exceed 1200FPS using 230gr Rainier in a G30, you better post the recipe for me to use.
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Old 08-28-2011, 18:24   #5
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Plated are fine to shoot. With the prices of plated being similar to (and in some cases more than) FMJ, why not use FMJ?

You should be fine if you use FMJ data for plated, especially if shooting 45. I use FMJ data (and then some) for 124g Berry's and they shoot just fine from my 26... then again the barrel is so short I'll never see 1200+ from a published load lol.
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Old 08-28-2011, 18:30   #6
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With the prices of plated being similar to (and in some cases more than) FMJ, why not use FMJ?
Just a guess, but maybe because he already has them on hand.
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Old 08-28-2011, 18:36   #7
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I shoot Berry's plated bullets in my G19 and my G36 all the time and they work well with no leading problems. Use low to mid range FMJ data and you should be fine.
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I had a batch of Rainiers with TightGroup powder through my glock and sig and they shot flawless, they were light loads too and cycled just fine.
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Old 08-28-2011, 20:25   #9
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Bigboreguns, if you manage to exceed 1200FPS using 230gr Rainier in a G30, you better post the recipe for me to use.
Consider it done.

Thanks guys I just don't want any avoidable accidents.
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Old 08-29-2011, 00:05   #10
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Plated are fine to shoot. With the prices of plated being similar to (and in some cases more than) FMJ, why not use FMJ?

You should be fine if you use FMJ data for plated, especially if shooting 45. I use FMJ data (and then some) for 124g Berry's and they shoot just fine from my 26... then again the barrel is so short I'll never see 1200+ from a published load lol.
Well, you could. I could tell you, but then have to kill you. Seriously, you can safely get to 1200fps w/ a 124gr bullet in the G26. Factory BlackHills 124grXTP+P do 1220fps in mine. Look to HS6 or Longshot.
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Old 08-31-2011, 15:29   #11
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As others have said shooting plated bullets is just fine for your Glocks. I've shot quite a few in my 19, 22 and 36.
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Old 08-31-2011, 16:04   #12
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Bigboreguns, if you manage to exceed 1200FPS using 230gr Rainier in a G30, you better post the recipe for me to use.
HA! I was thinking the same thing.

You would be ok using plated bullets. Glock barrels due to their design provide a better seal and get a little more pressure out of a round. Plated bullets are slightly bigger and properly sized lead bullets would be even bigger yet ie:

Jacketed - .450
Plated - .455
Lead - .451.

Even using something like Longshot, you will be OK but you will get the slightest bit more pressure resulting in a view more fps but nothing near dangerous.
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Old 08-31-2011, 16:15   #13
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Rainiers 124gr RN have always done great in my Glocks. Haven't had any problems with Berrys 147gr RN either. Extremes are next.

You can't go wrong with plated bullets. Almost as cheap as lead with the non-leading benefit of jacketed ammo. When you run out, TJConevera has great prices with free shipping on most bullets. I don't think they carry Rainiers though.
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I've used a lot of Rainier plated bullets in the past. They will shoot fine out of Glock using conservative loads.
I'll be honest and admit Rainier are not my favorite plated bullet suppliers, found them to be inconsistent and sucked accuracy wise. I prefer Berry's or Zero if plated but tend to stick with PD FMJ for my Glocks and moly Bear Creeks for standard rifled guns.
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Old 08-31-2011, 20:47   #15
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I currently have one Glock. Hard times had to sell stuff. Anyway I'm back full swing into shooting and reloading. I have a Glock 30. This morning while digging through a bunch of reloading stuff I came across 500 or so rainer 230g bullets. Is it safe to shoot rainer bullets in Glock? I've always loaded fmj bullets for my Glock. My understanding is lead is a no no. But what about plated bullets?

Sorry if this is a repetitive question.
For my 45 ACP range ammo, I use 6.0 grains of Unique powder under Rainier 230 grain round nose bullets. This combo is the practice ammo for both my Glock 30 and Colt 1911.

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Old 08-31-2011, 21:19   #16
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Just a little info from a newb. I have only loaded about a 1000 rounds and they all have been Berry's plated. This thread sparked my interest to take some measurements. Berry's plated are advertised at .452

measurements and type

200 gr RS .450 -.452
200 gr FP .450 - .452
230 gr RN .450- .452


I thought that was pretty consistent when I measure about 6 of each.

So as a newb all i have heard is lead is bad for Glocks. I get from all of this that isn't bad. Im thinking I might try hardcast lead. Whats the worst that can happen.....I have to clean the barrel? It would be nice for the virsatility of shooting all types.
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Just a little info from a newb. I have only loaded about a 1000 rounds and they all have been Berry's plated. This thread sparked my interest to take some measurements. Berry's plated are advertised at .452

measurements and type

200 gr RS .450 -.452
200 gr FP .450 - .452
230 gr RN .450- .452


I thought that was pretty consistent when I measure about 6 of each.

So as a newb all i have heard is lead is bad for Glocks. I get from all of this that isn't bad. Im thinking I might try hardcast lead. Whats the worst that can happen.....I have to clean the barrel? It would be nice for the virsatility of shooting all types.
That's what I find with Berry's over Rainiers, better consistency.

BTW welcome to the forum, see your from Livermore, CA. My family is from there... lived and grew up in that area for a time.
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Old 09-01-2011, 00:10   #18
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Just a little info from a newb. I have only loaded about a 1000 rounds and they all have been Berry's plated. This thread sparked my interest to take some measurements. Berry's plated are advertised at .452

measurements and type

200 gr RS .450 -.452
200 gr FP .450 - .452
230 gr RN .450- .452


I thought that was pretty consistent when I measure about 6 of each.

So as a newb all i have heard is lead is bad for Glocks. I get from all of this that isn't bad. Im thinking I might try hardcast lead. Whats the worst that can happen.....I have to clean the barrel? It would be nice for the virsatility of shooting all types.
You won't get that from me...or from Mark Passamaneck! Mark's an engineer who has conducted research on shooting naked lead bullets in factory Glock barrels. His conclusion, that it is bad juju, is documented in his chapter in Robin Taylor's book, The Glock in Competition (second edition).

People do it...and people get away with it. Would I do it? You can bet your sweet bippy I won't! Besides, naked lead bullets are nasty, slimy and toxic.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:53   #19
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You won't get that from me...or from Mark Passamaneck! Mark's an engineer who has conducted research on shooting naked lead bullets in factory Glock barrels. His conclusion, that it is bad juju, is documented in his chapter in Robin Taylor's book, The Glock in Competition (second edition).

People do it...and people get away with it. Would I do it? You can bet your sweet bippy I won't! Besides, naked lead bullets are nasty, slimy and toxic.

YA you got a point. My buddies are all black after lead!

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Old 09-08-2011, 19:47   #20
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I shoot them in .40 1250 fps over unique for a hot load. They shot strait when I pushed them hard with the unique. They shot really good with 231 at 950 fps. Like boxer was saying a while back I had problems with seating due to ogive consistency. I have not had the problem again and shoot them today.
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