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09-11-2011, 13:55
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Recommend a strong 357 mag hp load.
I am looking for a very strong 125gr 357 mag hp load out of a 4" GP100. I am considering Cor-Bon, Double Tap, Buffalo bore. If you have chronographed any loads like these I would love that info as well. Thanks! Oh yeah, I have shot magnum revolvers for 38 yrs or so, and can handle them with no problem.
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09-11-2011, 14:00
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Corbon stuff is always got a little extra. Pete Pi Likes it that way. I personally like anything Gold Dot. I have been looking at Grizzly Cartridge also. They dont really have what you say you want though.
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09-11-2011, 17:27
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In The Saddle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogbite
I am looking for a very strong 125gr 357 mag hp load out of a 4" GP100. I am considering Cor-Bon, Double Tap, Buffalo bore. If you have chronographed any loads like these I would love that info as well. Thanks! Oh yeah, I have shot magnum revolvers for 38 yrs or so, and can handle them with no problem.
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Many opnions, and mine is one more.  but after 40 years of using and proving them the federal 125gr JHP is a very decent round. There are others like speer 125gr. etc. I do prefer a 158gr personally, but in the 125gr class, For several decades I have found the fed 125 gr JHP to be a very true and awesome preformer. nuff said. 
Good luck.
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09-11-2011, 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogbite
I am looking for a very strong 125gr 357 mag hp load out of a 4" GP100. I am considering Cor-Bon, Double Tap, Buffalo bore. If you have chronographed any loads like these I would love that info as well. Thanks! Oh yeah, I have shot magnum revolvers for 38 yrs or so, and can handle them with no problem.
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Buffalo Bore is where it's at. They have a standard 125gr high velocity, lower (not low) recoil/flash/blast 125gr and a high velocity 125gr Barnes all copper bullet.
It's a .357 mag, though...and out of a 4" barrel. It's hard to go wrong. Remington, Federal, Buffalo Bore, Corbon, Gold Dot, Hornady XTP...all seem like they would do just fine.
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Last edited by Warp; 09-11-2011 at 20:02..
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09-11-2011, 20:28
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All good recomendations.
The Fed. 125 gr. is a firebreather for sure. I have even shot it in an LCR. Brutal. I have also shot the Doule Tap 110 gr. Barnes and their sizzling 125 gr. Gold Dot load. They are not pleasant and are only for the well seasoned Magnum shooter. All are extremely accurate in my LCR & Model 13. I can shoot but five in the LCR as the back blast is tremendous. In the 13 I can shoot more as the Ahrend's wooden boot grip is very comfortable. If a human can survive a few of these COM they deserve a presidential pardon. 
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09-11-2011, 20:29
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Remington has a load that uses a scalloped jacket and it's a smoking load. I've found federal and black hills make really hot 125 loads too.
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09-11-2011, 21:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogbite
I am looking for a very strong 125gr 357 mag hp load out of a 4" GP100. I am considering Cor-Bon, Double Tap, Buffalo bore. If you have chronographed any loads like these I would love that info as well. Thanks! Oh yeah, I have shot magnum revolvers for 38 yrs or so, and can handle them with no problem.
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Buffalo Bore. Excellent.
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09-12-2011, 21:19
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Federal 125 jhp
Winchester 145 STHP
Remington 140 sjhp
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09-12-2011, 21:28
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They all will be solid, but Buffalo Bore will have the best numbers. It screams.
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09-12-2011, 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dougader
Federal 125 jhp
Winchester 145 STHP
Remington 140 sjhp
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You seem to be confused. The OP asked for a "very strong" round.
Where can you buy the 140gr Remington SJHP? I'm lookig for some
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09-13-2011, 20:08
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Remington R357M1 is/was the "Lightning Bolt" round in law enforcement for years. From most 4" revolvers it does a repeatable 1400~1450 fps. The concussion is severe, but it doesn't breathe fire like some would think. Here's what it looks like at night from my 4" 686 at 1475-fps. Very low flash signature.
If there is a downside it is that this scalloped SJHP has very soft lead and it tends to fragment considerably leaving only a bullet base and lots of shrapnel. I cannot fathom anyone wanting a hotter 125-gr JHP in a .357 Magnum than the Remington Express R357M1.
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09-13-2011, 20:33
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woo woo
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The BB 125gr will do 1600fps in a 4", can be had with a Barnes all copper hp too.
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09-13-2011, 21:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berto
The BB 125gr will do 1600fps in a 4", can be had with a Barnes all copper hp too.
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I have some Double Tap .357 Mag. in the Barnes 110 gr. Copper HP and they are borderline S&M in my LCR!!!  They advertise 1470fps in a 1 7/8" barrel & I believe it. It's all I can do to get through five shots w/o going into a fetal position with my thumb in my mouth. 
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09-13-2011, 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nitesite10mm
Remington R357M1 is/was the "Lightning Bolt" round in law enforcement for years. From most 4" revolvers it does a repeatable 1400~1450 fps. The concussion is severe, but it doesn't breathe fire like some would think. Here's what it looks like at night from my 4" 686 at 1475-fps. Very low flash signature.
If there is a downside it is that this scalloped SJHP has very soft lead and it tends to fragment considerably leaving only a bullet base and lots of shrapnel. I cannot fathom anyone wanting a hotter 125-gr JHP in a .357 Magnum than the Remington Express R357M1. |
Hotter 125gr...might want an all coper bullet
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09-14-2011, 10:36
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Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo
I have some Double Tap .357 Mag. in the Barnes 110 gr. Copper HP and they are borderline S&M in my LCR!!! They advertise 1470fps in a 1 7/8" barrel & I believe it. It's all I can do to get through five shots w/o going into a fetal position with my thumb in my mouth. |
No offense, but there is NO way any 357 mag round is going to get 1470fps out of a 1 7/8" barrel. Its just NOT going to happen. Personally, I think it'd be a miracle to even break 1100fps with that short of a barrel.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
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09-14-2011, 11:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fly
No offense, but there is NO way any 357 mag round is going to get 1470fps out of a 1 7/8" barrel. Its just NOT going to happen. Personally, I think it'd be a miracle to even break 1100fps with that short of a barrel.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html |
There is also NO way that anybody in his or her right mind who has done any amount of research would ever trust anything the liars at double tap claim.
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09-14-2011, 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nitesite10mm
Remington R357M1 is/was the "Lightning Bolt" round in law enforcement for years. From most 4" revolvers it does a repeatable 1400~1450 fps. The concussion is severe, but it doesn't breathe fire like some would think. Here's what it looks like at night from my 4" 686 at 1475-fps. Very low flash signature.
If there is a downside it is that this scalloped SJHP has very soft lead and it tends to fragment considerably leaving only a bullet base and lots of shrapnel. I cannot fathom anyone wanting a hotter 125-gr JHP in a .357 Magnum than the Remington Express R357M1. |
What is a scalloped jacket?
I can't see how a bullet going that fast fragmenting in your body can possibly be good for you. I believe I read somewhere that this load typically gets 9-11" penetration in ballistic gel. This seems like it would be quite devastating on an average size aggressor. I'd also guess you probably won't need many followup shots. I don't care what the FBI says. Unless you are a juiced up fresh out of prison 350lb +gorilla (no racial connotations intended), this will **** you up.
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09-15-2011, 17:28
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woo woo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fly
No offense, but there is NO way any 357 mag round is going to get 1470fps out of a 1 7/8" barrel. Its just NOT going to happen. Personally, I think it'd be a miracle to even break 1100fps with that short of a barrel.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html |
I agree 1470 is stretching it, but the buffalo Bore stuff will get mid 1300's and does chrono mid 1400's in a 2.5".
They don't exaggerate their numbers.
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09-18-2011, 20:27
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Take a look at Doubletap. 
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09-18-2011, 20:32
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Originally Posted by bac1023
Take a look at Doubletap. |
bac, I thought you would know better than that. 
I stand by my above post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
There is also NO way that anybody in his or her right mind who has done any amount of research would ever trust anything the liars at double tap claim.
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09-18-2011, 20:49
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bac, I thought you would know better than that.
I stand by my above post |
I agree, DT has betrayed it's fan's badly. I would rather buy the watered down BS ammo available than DT at this point.
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