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Old 09-17-2011, 20:39   #1
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Great weather for casting.

It was so nice out that I set up and cast 1,000 200 grain SWC's for 45 acp. Besides I ran out the other day so I needed them bad.
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Old 09-17-2011, 20:46   #2
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I'm more and more interested in casting.

How do you play with the hardness of the bullet? Is there an alloy formula? I'm clueless about this lol.
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Old 09-17-2011, 20:52   #3
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I was thinking the same thing. I have about 100 lbs of ww to smelt, and I am running short on some of myh favorite projectiles. I also want to start casting for my G34.
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Old 09-17-2011, 21:01   #4
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Oh man. I am waiting for it to get a little cooler before I break out the Magma pot. First up is some Ballisticast .44's then some .416 RCBS for the Rigby. The list goes on and on...
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Old 09-17-2011, 22:22   #5
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Scored some wheel weights today. Only about 20 pounds, but it's still about 600 rounds.

Any weather is great weather for casting.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:02   #6
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Fire up the LP burner.
Its time to smelt lead!
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:06   #7
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I didn't cast any bullets yesterday, but I made 13 lead muffins from wheelweights!
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:01   #8
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Thanks for reminding me. i was looking for something to do today, but didn't want to load up the car and go anywhere. A couple of hours in the garage will be perfect.
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ME too, almost out of 200gr & I have been shooting quite a bit more lately. Time to fire up the smelter too, gotta get the scrap into nice ingots for a marathin casting session. Hmm, time to mine the berm again too. I am not comfy when my lead supply dips below 1000#.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:19   #10
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I'm more and more interested in casting.

How do you play with the hardness of the bullet? Is there an alloy formula? I'm clueless about this lol.
Most of us use straight wheel weights. They are perfect for just about any pistol bullet that's not magnum.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:26   #11
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Most of us use straight wheel weights. They are perfect for just about any pistol bullet that's not magnum.
Getting harder to find anymore too. WW work great for magnum rounds as well Rusty, just water drop them to get the BHN up. For anyone that cast their own, this is a great site w/ tons of info. http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm It's always more about hte bullet fit than the alloy though. I can get great results w/ aircooled ww @ magnum vel w/o leading.
As the EPA & greenies move forward, lead ww will become antiques, so if bullet casting is something you are even thinking about, start scrounging now & stack it deep. My bet is within 5yrs, the lead ww will no longer be with us in any form. Then you will have to buy alloy, not practical IMO, or mine the local shooting berm. I can pull 50# out of mine in less than 15min.
Alloy is where you find it too. I no longer hit the tire shops, they banned lead ww here almost 2yrs ago, but if I am in one I ask. I got 50# of pure lead form my dentist the other day. Boat shops, stained glass shops, contractors (roofing & plumbing lead) are all worth hitting up lead allloy.
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Why do you all worry about weather? Don't your houses stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter?

You flatlanders are funny to watch, you're really, really strange.


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Why do you all worry about weather? Don't your houses stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter?

You flatlanders are funny to watch, you're really, really strange.


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Because casting in the cooler months, in the garage, is cheaper than alimony.
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I'm more and more interested in casting.

How do you play with the hardness of the bullet? Is there an alloy formula? I'm clueless about this lol.
Don't worry about hardness. Hornady and Speer lead bullets are almost pure lead, very soft. Mine aren't much harder being made from range scrap. The key is to stay withing the limits of the lead you are using. the short version is, soft bullets are limited to light charges of fast powders, medium charges of medium powders like Unique, and you can use heavy charges of slow powders like 2400 for magnums. If you use a max load of Bullseye with a soft bullet in a high pressure round like 9mm, you will be miserable.

So, 38Spl target loads, 9 and 40 light loads, Bullseye etc will work fine. If you want +P38's, full power 9 or 40, or near max 357 magnums, you need to use Unique or similar. If you want full power magnums, you need to use a powder like 2400 or 296 etc.

This is for pistol loads. never did any rifle loads other than some really light plinkers in 30-06. I have run my soft lead bullets at over 1200fps in 357 mag with great results using 2400 and a non-gas checked bullet.

ETA: And Fred is right, bullet fit is critical. It must be as big as it can be and still chamber freely in a loaded round. An undersize bullet, like most commercial cast bullets, will almost always give bad results.
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I just made about 1000 9mm 125TC's. Thanks Rusty
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I just made about 1000 9mm 125TC's. Thanks Rusty
Glad I could help.
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Thanks for the Pb information, guys.

Question: Are you shooting these rounds through stock barrels? Or do you have aftermarket barrels for these loads? I have an LWD 40-9 conversion barrel I bought for my G33 before I picked up the G26, and I'll be loading up some Speer 125 gr. L-RN loads for that setup soon.
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I just made about 1000 9mm 125TC's. Thanks Rusty
I just opened a box of 1000 124gr FMJ..
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Thanks for the Pb information, guys.

Question: Are you shooting these rounds through stock barrels? Or do you have aftermarket barrels for these loads? I have an LWD 40-9 conversion barrel I bought for my G33 before I picked up the G26, and I'll be loading up some Speer 125 gr. L-RN loads for that setup soon.
I use a stock barrel in 9 and 40 Glocks, they work great. Remember, you have to tailor the load to the gun and those soft bullets will lead and keyhole with fast powders if pushed even at the starting loads. The aftermarket barrel will give you more leaway in that regard. Start light so you get good results and don't instant gratification rather than frustration.

What powder do you plan on using?
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