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Old 09-26-2011, 11:49   #26
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Tobacco. Many of the great survival stories of history hinged on the sweet leaf. Staves off hunger, soothes nerves, emboldens the spirit.
Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.
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Old 09-26-2011, 18:22   #27
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Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.
This is one that, for me, goes without saying. If SHTF, I'm more likely to forget my gun & food, than my smokes.
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Old 09-26-2011, 19:42   #28
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This is one that, for me, goes without saying. If SHTF, I'm more likely to forget my gun & food, than my smokes.
Smokes also give away your position and are pretty bad for aerobic activity.
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Old 09-26-2011, 20:02   #29
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Smokes also give away your position
If I'm hiding in a bush, trying not to be seen, that WON'T be the time for me to kick back and enjoy a smoke. However, when I'm in my car, getting the hell outta there, that stoke is going to be mighty tasty. And once at my safe spot, I'll smoke 'em at my leisure.


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pretty bad for aerobic activity.
So is being overweight(which I'm not), or just out of shape from spending 9hrs a day behind a desk(which I don't).

I smoke, sure. But my job is a daily 8hr workout. When you spend your days pulling engines, replacing entire suspension systems, hand fabricating custom steel body panels, and breaking loose 45yr old rusted-in bolts... Stamina? I have it in spades.
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Old 09-26-2011, 22:23   #30
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Old 09-26-2011, 22:55   #31
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Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.


I wouldnt. They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:33   #32
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I wouldnt. They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.
SHTF is a lot different from TEOTWAWKI, shorter even.
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...They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.
I'd say they're better fresh, not necessarily that they need to be. I keep a few cigars in my truck's console in an airtight container; a little one from pelican or some such, just to keep a few handy so I can grab one without going back into the house if I'm out by the burn pile, etc.

Not the best storage for them - and I do have a humidor in the house - but works surprisingly well for non-premium cigars. The good ones, I've never got to last real well, but the over-the-counter ones wrapped in cellophane do better. And as long as we're talking strictly about luxury or indulgence item, I'd rather have a semi-stale cigar than no cigar.

Fwiw, pipe tobacco is better for storage as it's much drier (or at least should be kept much drier). I have a couple pipes, but very rarely use either as pipes are inherently somewhat of a hassle imo.

The guy who "needs" his cigarettes is in trouble imo. I'm just a guy who enjoys a smoke on occasion; less than one a week on average.


[edit - a link on pipe tobacco storage. It really does lend itself better to storage than cigars and (probably) cigarettes. ]
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If I'm hiding in a bush, trying not to be seen, that WON'T be the time for me to kick back and enjoy a smoke. However, when I'm in my car, getting the hell outta there, that stoke is going to be mighty tasty. And once at my safe spot, I'll smoke 'em at my leisure.
Car good. But, I don't think most people know how far smoke travels.

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So is being overweight(which I'm not), or just out of shape from spending 9hrs a day behind a desk(which I don't).

I smoke, sure. But my job is a daily 8hr workout. When you spend your days pulling engines, replacing entire suspension systems, hand fabricating custom steel body panels, and breaking loose 45yr old rusted-in bolts... Stamina? I have it in spades.
I just changed a lot of fluids - oil, transmission, axle on my 2000 Dodge Dakota 4x4 - not fun - but it runs and pulls great after 140K miles.
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Old 09-27-2011, 13:58   #35
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Toilet paper. Scissors to cut hair/trim beard. Tweezers. Butt-loads of wet-wipes.

Outside of that, some form of entertainment. Books, porn, boardgames, deck of cards... whatever floats yer boat.

We always think of the "action" involved in a SHTF situation. Attackers, securing a food/water source, etc... But the fact is, once you reach a safe area and hole up, things are gonna get real dull, real quick.

Five things that will seriously ****** with your head;

1) Fear
2) Thirst
3) Hunger.
4) Fatigue.
5) Sheer boredom.

Oh, and a pillow. A pillow would be nice...

The first time i was medivaced I stole a inflatable pillow from the U.S.S. Repose. I drug it around the DMZ for months.
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Old 09-27-2011, 19:19   #36
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Car good. But, I don't think most people know how far smoke travels.
No further than body odor, or meat being cooked on an open fire. Stinky feet, dropping a deuce, sound/smell of car engine/generator running...

If SHTF ends up with us being over-run by mutant bloodhounds, I'll worry bout crap like that. Otherwise...

"Gotta enjoy the little things."
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No further than body odor, or meat being cooked on an open fire. Stinky feet, dropping a deuce, sound/smell of car engine/generator running...

If SHTF ends up with us being over-run by mutant bloodhounds, I'll worry bout crap like that. Otherwise...

"Gotta enjoy the little things."
Either you have not been in the outdoors or you have serious olfactory problems?

Cooking meat = stinky feet!
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Old 09-27-2011, 20:03   #38
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Cigs could become dang good bartering tools, just a good a some good moonshine.
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Old 09-27-2011, 23:27   #39
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Either you have not been in the outdoors or you have serious olfactory problems?

Cooking meat = stinky feet!
Not sure I'm following the feet=meat bit, but I actually do spend quite a bit of time in the great outdoors. Mostly just camping & hiking/horsebacking, as of late. Though I've done my share of rappelling/rock climbing, WW rafting, etc...

What I'm saying is, I'm not gonna be a sniper behind enemy lines, hiding in a damn tree, trying not to give away my position. My friend Ron has property out 30mi north of Pipe Creek. TX. That's the go-to zone for all of us. Secluded, hard as hell to get to, and between all of us... We aren't gonna hold off a Military invasion, lol, but random people/mobs?

Good luck.

If you use your supreme tracking skills to trace back the smell of my smoke, you'll find it drifting up from behind a scope. At which point you'll be relieved of the heavy burden of whatever supplies you're carrying, at sent on your merry way.
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Old 09-28-2011, 14:30   #40
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Depending on how long bugout might last, you might consider a Farmers Almanac.
Instructions on how to make LYE, your going to need it to decompose human waste, and dead things around your compound area.
You can make soap and concrete with lye as well
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Depending on how long bugout might last, you might consider a Farmers Almanac.
Instructions on how to make LYE, your going to need it to decompose human waste, and dead things around your compound area.
You can make soap and concrete with lye as well
That's damn good thinking man. I have one my dad gave me years ago, I've never gone through it. You have my curiosity piqued now, think I'll give it a read through soon...
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Old 09-28-2011, 20:27   #42
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Ummm - Socks and Matches are things i would put in the necessity pile: Fire and clothing....Unless you are striking out into SHTF barefoot and without fire tools!

Meds too. Not really a luxury. Fishoil tablets....ginseng for the green tea maybe - but not necessary meds. They are by definition necessary!
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Old 09-29-2011, 22:20   #44
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I always keep a small lightweight chess set in the car. I think something to keep your mind off things and let you escape is invaluable. A Bible or other religious book is also good. I think something that lets your mind get some rest.

As far as other items, I like the nail clippers and washcloth idea. Not only that but maybe something like spices to cook. Something for extra flavor and to spruce up your day.
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Go to a sporting goods store and get the socks intended for soccer players. I used to only buy Goldtoe till I found these!! They last WAY WAY longer than Goldtoe, are slightly thicker and they stay up! I get the black ones, but they come in various colors too.
Previously I used Gold Toe. I got some of the Heat Armour socks and they are tops! I was very skeptical on paying that much for socks, but now I am a believer in their socks.
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