used Dillon xl650 for first press?

CheddarB · 10-01-2011, 16:41

Ok I have been thinking about getting into reloading for a while now just never seriously considered it. but with me shooting .357sig,40sw,45acp and this ever burning itch to buy a 10mm has really got me thinking about it day and night.. one of my dads friends reloads and he said that if it isn't a dillon you wish it would be.. I have found a xl650 with case hopper. .380acp 9mm,40sw,45acp all "quick change" setups for 1800.00, is that a bit high for what he is selling? I was looking at the 550b's, but this seems like a nicer machine.. I am usually the "spend once cry once" type guy and it seems already setup for 3 calibers that I would load for.. what I am asking is this a good deal? and is this the type of press that I would probably never need to upgrade? any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Boxerglocker · 10-01-2011, 16:51

Dillon gear at 80 percent of retail used is a good deal. Price it out on the Brian Enos website and she where you come up.

Hawker Man · 10-01-2011, 16:51

Get on Dillon's web page and do the math.

Frank V · 10-01-2011, 19:19

I'm not sure of the value of the press & set up you are talking about, but I bought a used Dillon 550. I called Dillon & told them I'd bought a used 550 & would the warranty still be good. The Rep's words were darn right, we warrant our presses not the buyer. I can tell you if you buy a used Dillon & anything is wrong with it they will repair it. They have one of he best warranty programs in the gun business. Buy Dillon with confidence.
Frank

RustyFN · 10-01-2011, 19:44

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have found a xl650 with case hopper. .380acp 9mm,40sw,45acp all "quick change" setups for 1800.00, is that a bit high for what he is selling?

For everything you have listed it would cost $1,408.45 at Brian Enos and it's all new. This is what I figured,

Dillon 650
four die sets
case feeder
two case feeder plates
three quick change kits

Not sure how much more is included in the used set up.

unclebob · 10-01-2011, 20:15

I came up with 1675.00 and that is with just about everything Strong mount, roller handle, bullet tray etc. If it has everything 1340.00 would be more like it.

frankmako · 10-01-2011, 20:27

i got two 550 and they have never given me any problems. check the prices over at dillon and enos to see what a new one goes for.

unclebob · 10-01-2011, 20:32

Ops forgot the dies. So that would be another 252.00. So I would say he is selling it for what he paid for it.

fredj338 · 10-01-2011, 21:04

I can't argue w/ wanting to purchase a quality, few hassles progressive like the 650. Priced as stated, the owner is a bit high, get him down to $1300-1400 & it's a good deal. Reload on it for 5yrs & you can sell it for what you paid today.

Colorado4Wheel · 10-01-2011, 21:13

650 would be a great first press. Very nice indeed.

Tpro · 10-01-2011, 21:24

My question is this; Why would anyone sell the Dillon 650? Unless they dies of course, but this is the Cadillac of presses. Can't imagine some one selling one.

fredj338 · 10-02-2011, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Tpro

My question is this; Why would anyone sell the Dillon 650? Unless they dies of course, but this is the Cadillac of presses. Can't imagine some one selling one.

The recent admins wet blanket on the economy has cost many good jobs. So if you need $1500 to pay the bills, you can always buy another press when you start working again. It's likely why they are asking pretty much retail.

Tpro · 10-02-2011, 10:41

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Originally Posted by fredj338

The recent admins wet blanket on the economy has cost many good jobs. So if you need $1500 to pay the bills, you can always buy another press when you start working again. It's likely why they are asking pretty much retail.

I get that. My question is who is the fool that will over pay for that? I never pay 80% of retail for anything used. No matter what it is. It's stupid. For 20% I'll buy new, regardless of warranty. He may need to pay bills. He just wouldn't do it at my expense.

ave8er · 10-02-2011, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Tpro

My question is this; Why would anyone sell the Dillon 650? Unless they dies of course, but this is the Cadillac of presses. Can't imagine some one selling one.

the guy that wants to move up to a 1050

If I was loading a bunch of 9mm I would step up to 1050 for the primer swaging damn crimped primers are a PITA

unclebob · 10-02-2011, 11:50

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Originally Posted by ave8er

the guy that wants to move up to a 1050

If I was loading a bunch of 9mm I would step up to 1050 for the primer swaging damn crimped primers are a PITA

Great if that is all you shoot.

fredj338 · 10-02-2011, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Tpro

I get that. My question is who is the fool that will over pay for that? I never pay 80% of retail for anything used. No matter what it is. It's stupid. For 20% I'll buy new, regardless of warranty. He may need to pay bills. He just wouldn't do it at my expense.

Got it, I agree. The guy wants his money back. I see it all the time. Most people think their stuff is worth more when they sell it & your stuff is worth less when they are buying it.

Tpro · 10-02-2011, 23:47

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Originally Posted by fredj338

Got it, I agree. The guy wants his money back. I see it all the time. Most people think their stuff is worth more when they sell it & your stuff is worth less when they are buying it.

Yup!

CheddarB · 10-07-2011, 20:34

thank you all for your reply's and input, I was thinking about contacting him and seeing what his bottom dollar is.. I just got another .357sig and that damn 10mm keeps looking better and better by the day...

UncleBob- do you reload? if so is there a good local source for reloading supply's? (I am in the FWB area) or is it better to stick with on-line retailers?

unclebob · 10-07-2011, 21:13

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Originally Posted by CheddarB

thank you all for your reply's and input, I was thinking about contacting him and seeing what his bottom dollar is.. I just got another .357sig and that damn 10mm keeps looking better and better by the day...

UncleBob- do you reload? if so is there a good local source for reloading supply's? (I am in the FWB area) or is it better to stick with on-line retailers?

Yes I reload. It depends powder and primers I get from Graf on Sons or Powder Valley. Bullets, one of the people that I shoot and travel with for GSSF matches is an X-Treme dealer. Two to three times a year he does an order of what people want. If I Just want to try a different powder I go to Patriot Arms.

marksmenscorner · 12-01-2011, 16:33

Hi Chedder

Dillion makes a fine press I have reloaded for years and own both a dillion and a lee progressive, I find that I use my Lee loadmaster for most of my reloading needs and the price was a lot less, The dies are great and customer service is number one,

just a thought, Don't buy just because that brand is sold near by, Most co. will ship to your door in 3 to five days, check on line for the equipment that fits your needs and budget

CheddarB · 12-01-2011, 16:55

Marksmen- thanks for your reply, I am trying to find out what my options are. but I generally like to "buy once cry once" I don't like to mess around and get something that might save me some money up front but then I end up getting what I wanted in the first place and take a loss on what I first bought..

F106 Fan · 12-01-2011, 17:15

I have a couple of Dillon 550B's so I know a good deal about changing calibers on 550B's. I know exactly nothing about changing calibers on an XL 650.

I suggest you read the User Manual and see what the process is like. As you are getting caliber conversion kits in the package, it must be fairly easy. Still, better to know before you go.

http://www.dillonhelp.com/manuals/en...l-May-2007.pdf

I do know that changing calibers on a Dillon 1050 is theoretically possible. I don't intend to ever find out. There are just too many adjustments.

Richard

Colorado4Wheel · 12-01-2011, 17:34

550 is easy enough
650 is a little more time consuming. To imply that either is hard is to say the user is not really that competent. Neither are hard. Neither require you to "adjust" the parts you removed and replaced (beyond the shellplate on both).

Beanie-Bean · 12-01-2011, 18:31

Hmm...seems like you could possibly get a better deal buying new. Anyhow, there are some excellent resources here in the Reloading section. I wasn't going to start reloading until next year, and was planning on just buying a few pieces at a time until I had enough to start.

Fast forward...these guys have been instrumental in helping me get the reloading bug going. Now, I'm just hurting to know how much I've spent on factory ammo, when I could have been creating my own at home.

I hope that you can get a better price, but the XL650 would be an excellent press, whether a first press or not. Plus, the Dillon no-BS warranty will keep you good as long as you have the press.

snowwdog · 12-01-2011, 19:43

i agree he wants to much. The 650 was my first press then a rock chucker for rifle stuff. I could not imagine loading on anything else but a dillion. Mine has been going strong for 10 years. Few broken/lost parts but dillion is always there to save my butt.