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10-02-2011, 22:26
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Wow rifle loading blows.. well prepping at least..
went to a buds house to resize deprime some 223.. wow man this is a PITA lol
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10-02-2011, 22:36
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Yes, yes it does. Did you measure the length of the case and remove the crimp too? Range pick-up brass tends to vary from 1.734 to 1.769. I toss anything less than 1.745.
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10-02-2011, 22:41
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no actually i have not. none of this crimped its all rem once fired
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10-02-2011, 22:48
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You're lucky. Half the stuff I get at the range is LC or FC and is ring crimped. At least check the length of those cases.
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10-02-2011, 22:51
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will do bud ! all this brass was from 1 friend of mine.. bout 700 pieces
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10-02-2011, 23:00
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What am I getting into!
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10-02-2011, 23:19
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There isn't much prep to do with commercial once fired rifle brass but size, primer & load. You don;t get into trimming until about 3-5 firings, depending on gun & load & unless you are doing match quality ammo, doing any add'l brass pres is useless IMO.
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10-02-2011, 23:23
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Yeah, rifle reloading sucks. I hate lubing brass. Absolutely hate it. Wish I could get a carbide body die so I don't have to use lube.
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10-02-2011, 23:26
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You still need to lube, even with a carbide rifle die.
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10-02-2011, 23:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fwdftw
went to a buds house to resize deprime some 223.. wow man this is a PITA lol
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Think that sucs, wait until they stretch, and have to be trimmed + everything you've had to do so far! That's when the fun really starts!
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10-02-2011, 23:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve in PA
You still need to lube, even with a carbide rifle die.
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Yes I know that. That's why I said I wish. Carbide steel is expensive and for a rifle die you're looking at $200 minimum for one that is completely carbide so lube isn't required (I bought a custom sizer die for the 45/70 so I didn't have to have lube during sizing).
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10-02-2011, 23:39
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Lubing rifle cases is my least favorite part of reloading...though there's something satisfying about wiping them off.
Case trimming is also a PITA...though for my AR I slack for my plinking loads and don't worry about it for two reloads...never seems to matter.
If you're trying to remove crimped primers from 5.56 casings, Lee's 10$ (from Midway) Universal Decapping Die fits right in your press, and is a lot smoother and easier for me than stand alone 5.56 decrimpers.
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10-03-2011, 07:55
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I use a 650 with a carbide size die in one and still have to lube but I even lube pistol cases. I post load tumble to knock the lube off. I now have a size die on station 1 and 5 with the trimmer on #3. The extra run through size dies with the expanders at #5 on the 650 and #2, 3 on the 1050 iron out the case mouth after trimming without need to debur or chamfer. The 1050 also swages crimped primer pockets as part of the normal loading process.
Another big time saver is the automatic annealer I built. It takes a few minutes to get everything set but then you can move on to other tasks, filling the hopper from time to time.
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10-03-2011, 08:33
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This is where a 650 or even a 1050 with case feeder comes in real handy.
One time I did 3 20mm ammo cans full of 9mm brass using the 650. And swaged them all with a Dillon Super Swager.
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10-03-2011, 09:00
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Get some Hornady One Shot. Spray it on the cases. Let it dry for a minute then run them through the die. Easy.
I think .223 is a pain in the butt in general because it's so small.
Saw some .30-06 hunting ammo at Sportsman's Warehouse the other day - two bucks a shot is what blows.
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10-03-2011, 09:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Steve
Get some Hornady One Shot. Spray it on the cases. Let it dry for a minute then run them through the die. Easy.
I think .223 is a pain in the butt in general because it's so small.
Saw some .30-06 hunting ammo at Sportsman's Warehouse the other day - two bucks a shot is what blows.
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+1^ When you used to have to role on a lube pad especially with RCBS lube that sucked . With HOS and other spray lubes a few simple sprays and let dry and your done. Couldn't be simpler.
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10-03-2011, 09:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris in va
"I toss anything less than 1.745."
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Why? Unless you are crimping your loads in which you needed a specific case length. I know 1.740" to 1.745" will work fine, It's even recommended by RCBS if you use their X die.
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10-03-2011, 09:24
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you can lube a lot faster with the RCBS lube if you dump your brass into a bucket, squeeze a bunch of lube onto your hands, then just run your hands around the brass picking up handfuls and working the lube around with your hands. Spend about a minute working it all around and there you go. I've done 500 pieces of 5.56 brass at a time. Took maybe a little over a minute. Then deprime/resize then toss back into the tumbler.
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10-03-2011, 13:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Steve
Get some Hornady One Shot. Spray it on the cases. Let it dry for a minute then run them through the die. Easy.
I think .223 is a pain in the butt in general because it's so small.
Saw some .30-06 hunting ammo at Sportsman's Warehouse the other day - two bucks a shot is what blows.
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I agree. One Shot for 223 but for anything larger I have to break out my Unique.
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10-03-2011, 14:34
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Mmmm... Liver.
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You lube your large cases with Unique?
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10-04-2011, 17:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Steve
You lube your large cases with Unique?
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Yes I do.
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10-04-2011, 18:43
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Mmmm... Liver.
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I thought you were talking about the powder. I didn't know that existed. I just done did learnt sumthin.
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10-04-2011, 19:21
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Me too and it terrifies me. MORE UNIQUE. ARRRGGGHHHHHHH
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10-04-2011, 19:29
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Get some local bulk Lanolin mix it with some rubbing alcohol 90%(less water) stuff or better is the best and you have case lube for a lifetime.
Think of rifle reloading as one step closer to absolute control over your rifle and your shot placement. When you get to that point you know every miss you make is on you , not your equipment, and every PITA step is worth every penny of labor and effort. Kind of a zen moment to make the drudgery worth every step.
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10-04-2011, 19:35
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That's nothing,
Start with 5.56 nato brass that needs primer pockets reamed, then convert them to a wildcat round that needs to be fire formed like 7MM TCU.
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