If CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO, Palma Canary Islands Collapse?

The Wizard · 03-18-2013, 10:53

The mega tsunami and catastrophic effects if CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO Palma Canary Islands Collapses on the east coast will be beyond anything seen in record history but not an ELE (Extinction Level Event). I don't think here in Colorado we will see any of the INITIAL effects. I am not planning on having my waders at the ready. I was wondering what could we expect in the days, months and years that follow such an event? Lets keep this realistic, NO ZOMBIES!

banger · 03-18-2013, 13:00

Well. I am certain that it will be at least as bad as 12-21-12!

And, we don't need to go into the details of how horrible that was.

**janice6** · 03-18-2013, 13:30

This warning has been out for years now. Nobody cares or listens.

A TV documentary was done on the Island faults and cracks plus the present sliding of the mountain side as impending doom a couple of years ago. Didn't get as much attention as the NY Mayor wanting to ban "Big Gulps".

AK_Stick · 03-18-2013, 14:00

The problem with wringing hands and being excited over the Canary Islands, is there isn't much we can do about it, and there isn't any indication that something may happen with it, in our lifetime.

If something does happen, the only real defense is to not be where a mega-tsunami makes landfall.

As for what life would be like, well, it depends totally upon the actual damage, and where its located... Will not be enjoyable.

ClydeG19 · 03-18-2013, 14:42

Hopefully volcanologists can find a way to induce smaller eruptions or land slides to prevent a massive one.

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***Wil Ufgood*** · 03-18-2013, 14:59

The Wizard · 03-18-2013, 15:56

I can see I posted this on the wrong forum. Moderator please delete this thread.

bdcochran · 03-18-2013, 16:03

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walt cowan · 03-19-2013, 06:41

once and if it does, folks on the east coast will have about 10 hours to get inland. if one waits for a hour or two after the flag goes up, they will die in traffic less than 50 miles from shore.

The Wizard · 03-19-2013, 09:00

From the reply I have gotten so far I can see I posted on the wrong forum. Maybe I should have made it an essay question. Try this: Discuss what effects a mega tsunami hitting the east coast of the United States caused by the collape of Cumbre Vieja volcano would have in the weeks, months and years following the event on the social, economic and political landscape of the United States and the world?

***Wil Ufgood*** · 03-19-2013, 10:59

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

SFCSMITH(RET) · 03-19-2013, 13:19

An ESSAY question??!!

WTF is wrong with you??

You want a REAL answer to such a question?? Go to the LIBRARY.. essay? crap, whole BOOKS have been written on the subject.

That said.. the world as we know it will go to ****. Period. There are certain "disasters" for which you simply cannot prepare. You stack your beans bullets and bandaids as deep as you can, and then hope/pray that you are not patient zero of Captain Tripps, or that a sinkhole doesn't eat your county, or a meteor doesn't strike.. etc etc etc.

Then provided you survive the Mars Attacks episode, you do what you can.

EDIT: and Yes, you posted in the wrong forum I am sure. This is S&P, and we try to discuss reality, not "God flooded the world and didn't tell you to build a boat" scenarios.

Batesmotel · 03-19-2013, 13:24

No way to prep for everything. Canary Islands, Yellowstone Super Caldera, many earthquake fault Super-Complexes. Nature is bigger than our preps.

happie2shoot · 03-19-2013, 19:02

I wonder if it would go to the west side of Florida.

racerford · 03-19-2013, 22:52

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Originally Posted by The Wizard

From the reply I have gotten so far I can see I posted on the wrong forum. Maybe I should have made it an essay question. Try this: Discuss what effects a mega tsunami hitting the east coast of the United States caused by the collape of Cumbre Vieja volcano would have in the weeks, months and years following the event on the social, economic and political landscape of the United States and the world?

It is not that you posted in the wrong forum. You posted a poorly worded thread starter. Clear communication is the responsibility of the sender.

So let me see if I have this clear. You are not asking what to expect or how to prepare for it, if you are in the tsunami strike zone. Rather you are asking what will be the impact on the rest of us in the other parts of the country or globe. As an example, the NYSE will be wiped out. The headquarters of many major financial institution would be wiped out. The east coast naval bases will be wiped out. Will any of these things have a major impact on the rest of us? Initially , medium term, long term?

I think it will cause chaos and potentially cause a run on banks or a panic as people worry that they won't have access to their money. It would likely hamper many people's financial liquidity in the short and medium term. This would really be the result of the psychological impact. Most of the major banks and financial institutions will have back ups and possibly most of there data process in other parts of the country. Heck, some of the companies were hit hard on September 11th. Their data processing companies got them up and running elsewhere pretty shortly. It will cause devastation in some sectors of the job market and great opportunity in others. Certain food stuffs will be in short supply (cranberries?). There will likely be shortages of certain supplies.

I will note that you can look to Japan to see how long it takes to get things back together. Of course their infrastructure was better prepared.

Preparation in the other parts of the country would be the same as for other disaster:

Have as much long term food storage as practical (2 weeks, 2 months, a year).
Have cash on hand for a 2 weeks to 2 months of expenses.
Be saving for retirement.
Reduce or eliminate your debt.
Medicine for as long as possible (this may be important as there as some big pharmacutical companies in the strike zone.

This would just be normal prepping.

In the strike zone? Make peace with your self, loved ones and if appropriate your god.

JDSTG58 · 03-26-2013, 19:22

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Originally Posted by happie2shoot

I wonder if it would go to the west side of Florida.

Florida would be under hundreds of feet of water. Don't matter what part, it's all flat. The tallest hill in Florida is Space Mountain at Disney.

bdcochran · 03-26-2013, 19:50

The tallest building in the state is the 70-story Four Seasons Hotel Miami, which rises 789 feet (240 m) in the City of Miami's Brickell district and was completed in 2003.[1] It also stands as the 51st-tallest building in the United States.

Florida has 45 buildings that are 150 metres (490 ft) or higher. The majority are located in the City of Miami, and over 85% are in the Miami metro area. Of the 45 tallest buildings in Florida, 30 are in Miami, 5 are in Sunny Isles Beach, 4 are in Tampa, 3 are in Miami Beach, 2 are in Jacksonville, and 1, NASA's Vehicle Assembly Building, is on Merritt Island.

Oh my goodness. Imagine being at 789 feet and seeing the oncoming tsunami! awesome beyond belief.

pugman · 03-26-2013, 20:04

Colorado would feel the effect....California would feel the effect.

Think martial law, a federal government confisciating resources, etc.

Think Katrina was bad? Imagine it in New York, Boston, Miami, etc. 23.3 million people live within 50 miles of the Long Island sound. You are talking about an event which will wipe out the homes of tens of millions of people and cause trillions in damage. how many white collar jobs would be wiped out? Think these people would have the skills and desire to work blue collar construction and cleanup.

Medical services would be over capacity. Post Hurricane sandy a coworker of mine who lives a mile inland in NYC said she waited two weeks post hurricane 3 hours to get 8 gallons of gas.

One city...New Oreleans...has barely recovered from one hurricane. You are talking about an event which would take decades to recover from. the discovery special I saw estimated the death toll at 4 million IIRC. I think they are being generous

Donn57 · 03-26-2013, 22:02

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Originally Posted by JDSTG58

Florida would be under hundreds of feet of water. Don't matter what part, it's all flat. The tallest hill in Florida is Space Mountain at Disney.

While Florida may well be under water, the entire state is not flat and the highest natural point in the state is more than 3-1/2 times higher than Space Mountain.