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Old 10-09-2011, 18:27   #1
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Looks like I might be academy bound

Had my psych on Friday to finish out the application process for the current department that I have been working on for a while. After our drug test and academy life brief, we were provided a shopping list of cadet uniforms, as well as all of the other stuff like PT clothes and various supplies.

I have yet to receive my official letter, but that should be here in the coming week or two, according to the HR lady. My report date will be November 14, and it will be a class size of about 80 cadets.

Just wanted to say thanks a ton to everybody here for all of the advice thus far. The academy for the Staties here is 27 weeks, and I am very anxious to start.
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Old 10-09-2011, 18:35   #2
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Jesus, 27 weeks. Ugh. I am sure it will be fun though. Not that we need to tell you but make sure you have all of your siht together day one then commence to disappearing in the crowd.

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Old 10-09-2011, 18:39   #3
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Outstanding. Full steam ahead.
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Old 10-09-2011, 18:42   #4
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Jesus, 27 weeks. Ugh. I am sure it will be fun though. Not that we need to tell you but make sure you have all of your siht together day one then commence to disappearing in the crowd.

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Sir, yes Sir. I will make sure to disappear and go un-noticed as much as possible. It is a para-military academy and department. I picked up on quite a re things by watching the current cadets on Friday.
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Old 10-09-2011, 18:43   #5
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Outstanding. Full steam ahead.
Thanks very much!
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Old 10-09-2011, 18:43   #6
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Jesus, 27 weeks. Ugh.
This. I was ready to lose my mind in a 18 week academy. Tack on 9 more and I'd be a drooling, babbling idiot! (Insert command/admin joke here)

Congrats and good luck! Remember, this is going to be very trying, and they're going to want to see if you quit, but this is also the most fun you're likely to have in LE. Where else can you go and drive fast, beat up bad guys and shoot guns EVERY DAY?!

Keep us posted!
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This. I was ready to lose my mind in a 18 week academy. Tack on 9 more and I'd be a drooling, babbling idiot! (Insert command/admin joke here)

Congrats and good luck! Remember, this is going to be very trying, and they're going to want to see if you quit, but this is also the most fun you're likely to have in LE. Where else can you go and drive fast, beat up bad guys and shoot guns EVERY DAY?!

Keep us posted!
Thanks and I will post as much as I safely can on the weekends that I am allowed to come home. I am very excited, and a little nervous. I know that I will be physically and mentally exhausted on a daily basis. The academics are as tough for this academy as the PT. I will suck it up every day knowing that I am working towards my dream career.

I have worked very hard for this. I have lost 60 pounds so far and run over 3.5 miles 4-5 days per week to prepare. I started training physically back in April.
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I just wanna know how you cheated on the psych test to pass it.



Congrats the great adventure begins.
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I just wanna know how you cheated on the psych test to pass it.



Congrats the great adventure begins.
I just told them that I know a crusty old retired cop in another part of the country that said not to draw pictures of things on fire. They said that I was already well versed in the tactics of not appearing crazy and let me skip the test and go home for the day.

The big joke of the day was somebody saying they hoped we all studied for the drug test
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Dude good luck. If they told me I would have to repeat the academy to keep my job, I'd tell them to come get their stuff....it will be in the street.
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Dude good luck. If they told me I would have to repeat the academy to keep my job, I'd tell them to come get their stuff....it will be in the street.
Don't blame you one bit for that. I think this will be one of those things that I will feel happy to accomplish, but something that I would hope to never have to do again.
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You'll be walking on eggshells until Nov. 14.

IIRC, you previously posted this academy is a stay-away. Which means in about 10 to 12 weeks time, all you cadets will be getting cabin fever and will be ready to kill each other. Did somebody already mention that to you?

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You'll be walking on eggshells until Nov. 14.

IIRC, you previously posted this academy is a stay-away. Which means in about 10 to 12 weeks time, all you cadets will be getting cabin fever and will be ready to kill each other. Did somebody already mention that to you?

Congratulations!
I have been on eggshells for a long time now over this process. And good memory. It is indeed a stay away academy. They allow you certain weekends to come home. The good news is that only two cadets share a room together and not 50 like in the military. I am sure we will get on each others nerves at times, but I talked to quite a few people there who will potentially be in my class, and they seemed like a great group.
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I think this will be one of those things that I will feel happy to accomplish, but something that I would hope to never have to do again.
Remember, for the academy phase of your career, graduating is the goal.

So between now and Day 1 of the academy, the goal should be to maintain your current physical condition. Don't push yourself so hard that you'll end up with a physical injury.

When you're in the academy, the goal is to graduate. So don't do anything physically crazy or beyond your abilities that you'll get injured and can't continue, and thus have to get recycled through the next class.
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I have been on eggshells for a long time now over this process.

I am sure we will get on each others nerves at times, but I talked to quite a few people there who will potentially be in my class, and they seemed like a great group.
On both points, oh believe me, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Remember, for the academy phase, graduating is the goal.

So between now and Day 1 of the academy, the goal should be to maintain your current physical condition. Don't push yourself so hard that you'll end up with a physical injury.

When you're in the academy, the goal is to graduate. So don't do anything physically crazy or beyond your abilities that you'll get injured and can't continue, and thus have to get recycled through the next class.
I sincerely appreciate the great advice. I have been thinking about this myself a lot lately as well actually. I am going to try to maybe lose a couple more pounder by then, but not push like I have been the last six months. I will maintain what I progress I have made, like you suggested. I also plan to do just enough to keep the instructors off of my back, and not push super hard and end up getting recycled. I know a Trooper whose daughter is starting over in November for the third time because of a re-occurring knee injury that she got while trying to outrun the guys on a formation run. I hope she males it this time through, but I only want to experience this all only one time.
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Congrats man, work hard it will be over before you know it. Then after a few years you can come over and be a Fireman with the rest of the men. Just kidding, congrats.
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Congrats man, work hard it will be over before you know it. Then after a few years you can come over and be a Fireman with the rest of the men. Just kidding, congrats.
I appreciate the kind words.
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Old 10-09-2011, 20:54   #19
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I just finished the academy 3 weeks ago. 7 long months.

Good luck and be really good at disappearing.
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I just finished the academy 3 weeks ago. 7 long months.

Good luck and be really good at disappearing.
Thanks for the advice! I promise to do everything I can not to stick out. I will just do what I have to do and try to enjoy the fun stuff when it comes around.
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Old 10-09-2011, 22:32   #21
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Keep your head down and get through the whole academy. Don't be a star.

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Old 10-10-2011, 04:56   #22
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Congrats!

You want to blend in while you are there. The guys/gals whose names the instructors knew (or at least said all the time) were the guys/gals that were kicked out, or forced out.

Night time fire drills and guard duty will keep you from a regular sleep cycle. The instructors are preparing you for the odd work hours.

Having to "make way" for the instructors and other troopers is not an ego thing. The purpose is to get you to use your peripheral vision, and teach you to keep aware of your surroundings.

The stress training is just that...stress training. It is not meant to be taken personal even though often it will seem that way.

You seem to have the right attitude, and I think you will do fine. I know I am across the river, but if you need anything feel free to reach out to me.

One last thing...my academy class started out with 144 recruits, and graduated 82. The name tags of each and every recruit who did not make it were pinned to the bulletin board at the back of the main class room. I didn't want my name on that board...

Good luck to you.
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Congrats!

You want to blend in while you are there. The guys/gals whose names the instructors knew (or at least said all the time) were the guys/gals that were kicked out, or forced out.

Night time fire drills and guard duty will keep you from a regular sleep cycle. The instructors are preparing you for the odd work hours.

Having to "make way" for the instructors and other troopers is not an ego thing. The purpose is to get you to use your peripheral vision, and teach you to keep aware of your surroundings.

The stress training is just that...stress training. It is not meant to be taken personal even though often it will seem that way.

You seem to have the right attitude, and I think you will do fine. I know I am across the river, but if you need anything feel free to reach out to me.

One last thing...my academy class started out with 144 recruits, and graduated 82. The name tags of each and every recruit who did not make it were pinned to the bulletin board at the back of the main class room. I didn't want my name on that board...

Good luck to you.
Thank you Sir. I appreciate the kind words and offer. What you said about having to snap to attention and make way for ranking Troopers makes complete sense now. I had no idea why they had cadets do that. It seems like everything they will have me do has a meaning and reason for doing it. I plan to lay as low as possible. I ordered another item for the list of needed stuff this morning as well.
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:03   #24
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Congrats, man! Just do exactly what is asked of you 110% and you'll be fine! What the instructors want to see is that you have the heart to be there and that you are giving a max effort every time.

My academy was 30 weeks of torment. 4949 is right on the money, everything really does have a purpose behind it, as mindless as it may seem. (well, for the most part. I'll swear to the day I die of the tormet we were subjected to was simply for the sadistic pleasure of our instructors)

One last note. You really can't hide, IMO, not when you're in a long, state run academy. The staff will know who you are and what you're about sooner or later. When the end finally comes, the guys at the post you get assigned to will know about you before you get there. Its up to you what they know..."this boot is squared away and gets it done" or "this boot's are real ****stick." Day one you start building your reputation. Suffer in silence, give your max every day and it will serve you well both during and after the academy.
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Congrats!

4949 had some solid advice there. Just remember when they're messing with you at the academy, there's a reason for everything, they're trying to test you all the time and see if you have the mental and intestinal fortitude to make it, don't take it personal.

On your weekends off, lay low. We had a few instances of guys getting in trouble in the bars down the shore or even just getting seen out bragging about the academy that the instructors heard about and we all paid for it Monday morning when we got back to the academy.
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