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Old 10-27-2011, 20:42   #1
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CHL holder gets 70 years

Here is the link to the conclusion of a local shooting.
Long story short Road rage type incident.

Both men armed one CHL holder one non CHL but because it is legal to have gun in car in Texas the permit status not important to this case. But I will refer to CHL and nonCHL for ID purposes only.

Many wittness observe shooting, many different views and stories. but reports from local news:
Both men may or may not have been driving agressively.
Pickup and car stop at intersection. Nonpermit holder exits car with gun in hand exchanges words with man in pickup. Non CHL Man gets back in car. CHL holder backs pickup may or may not have sat there for a few min. but puts pickup in reverse and pushes car a considerable distance back down street onto median disabling car.
Both men exit CHL holder shoots Glock23 and hits with head shot. NonCHL dead.
CHL holder is indicted for murder by Taylor County Grand Jury. Goes to trial found guilty. 70 years.
http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...on-murder-aus/
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Old 10-27-2011, 20:44   #2
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sounds about right to me. Easily could have left the scene and called 911. Clearly no immediate threat.
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Old 10-27-2011, 20:51   #3
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Well what did he expect to happen? Might have gotten away with it had he shot the nonCHL holder when he exited his car and approached him.
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Old 10-27-2011, 20:57   #4
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If we shot everyone that drove like a jack ass around me I would be the only one left on the road. If you have an out just take it. We have a side street around the corner from me, last sat morning we where on our way to breakfest and two guys got out about to fight. This seems to happen on this street at least 1x a week. I have got to where I wont take this street unless I have to, people can't just walk away from something stuiped anymore
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Old 10-27-2011, 20:59   #5
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Thats the way it appears here the threat had left the building sorta speak
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Old 10-27-2011, 21:03   #6
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Would have been a clean shoot if he clocked him as soon as he got out of the car with gun.

Either way, to less *******s I will ever encounter on the road. Win Win.
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Old 10-27-2011, 21:08   #7
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To quote a Monty Python skit......Run away Run away
Cant remember what movie it is from but good advise it it gets you or keeps you out of a fight.

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Old 10-27-2011, 21:17   #8
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To quote a Monty Python skit......Run away Run away
Cant remember what movie it is from but good advise it it gets you or keeps you out of a fight.
Holy Grail in case you had to know.

I agree with most written above. Seems to me his best shot at capping the guy and getting away with it was when the non CHL first approached.
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Old 10-27-2011, 21:23   #9
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Once again we have an excellent example as to why having a permit/license to carry does not make someone a good person. It also shows that police are right to treat permit holders with distrust just as they do those without permit holders.
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Old 10-27-2011, 21:34   #10
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Ass hats. I'm glad they convicted him, he had his moment for a "clean shoot" and missed it. Then he had an out, and chose instead to elevate the situation.

This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that can put the public on the wrong side of our struggle to preserve our rights. And a CHL holder? He took the class, he knows what's allowed, and what isn't.

If you are incapable controlling your anger, you have no business carrying a gun. Period.
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Old 10-27-2011, 22:09   #11
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Sounds like justice was served to me.
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Old 10-27-2011, 22:19   #12
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If we shot everyone that drove like a jack ass around me I would be the only one left on the road.
Now let's be fair. He did a lot more than drive like a jackass

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. Nonpermit holder exits car with gun in hand exchanges words with man in pickup.
Surely you recognize that.




If OP's simplistic tale of events is accurate the penalty sounds reasonable.
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Ass hats. I'm glad they convicted him, he had his moment for a "clean shoot" and missed it. Then he had an out, and chose instead to elevate the situation.

This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that can put the public on the wrong side of our struggle to preserve our rights. And a CHL holder? He took the class, he knows what's allowed, and what isn't.

If you are incapable controlling your anger, you have no business carrying a gun. Period.


True.

But it sure looks like he won't be carrying a gun anymore. Unfortunately somebody had to DIE before he was removed from society...fortunately the guy who was killed (may he rest in peace) showed that he can't control his anger all that well either
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Old 10-27-2011, 22:53   #14
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True.

But it sure looks like he won't be carrying a gun anymore. Unfortunately somebody had to DIE before he was removed from society...fortunately the guy who was killed (may he rest in peace) showed that he can't control his anger all that well either
Ya, no pity here for the dead guy. Somebody pisses you off in traffic, and you step out of your car with a gun?? He got what he deserved. Hell, I'm amazed he made that far in life. And the shooter got what he was due as well.

What irks me, is that a CHL holder did this. Kinda crap that the left wingers just love. MOST of us respect the fact that the gun we carry is for defense, and NOT for retribution. And we try to present ourselves as responsible armed citizens.
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Old 10-27-2011, 22:57   #15
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Yes, he should have shot him. But he should've done it when the guy was approaching, gun in had. Not after he got back into his car.

Difference between defense, and revenge.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:00   #16
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People need to ease up no matter if carrying or not. This was not good for either.
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Well now there is 2 less jackasses on the road at least.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:18   #18
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Sounds like a win-win for society getting 2 DB's off the road. Does give CCL a bad name yet again thou...
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For every "clean shooting," it seems like there is one (or more) where the lines between subject and victim are blurred. Sometimes there are no lines at all. Maybe we need an "affray with a gun" statute.
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For every "clean shooting," it seems like there is one (or more) where the lines between subject and victim are blurred.
Media bias most likely
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