10MM For Trail Gun?

10-S · 12-11-2011, 13:24

I'm an avid bicyclist/jogger. The bike & walking trails in some places have black bear, gator, hogs...etc sharing the same space occasionally. Would the 10mm be a good trail gun with a hunting load, jic?

bac1023 · 12-11-2011, 15:16

With the right ammo, it should be ok.

interlake869 · 12-11-2011, 15:44

not sure you need to worry about bears, gators and hogs in indiana- but the 10mm is one of the most versatile and powerful rounds(when loaded properly) available in auto pistols these days

10-S · 12-11-2011, 15:55

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Originally Posted by interlake869

not sure you need to worry about bears, gators and hogs in indiana- but the 10mm is one of the most versatile and powerful rounds(when loaded properly) available in auto pistols these days

LOL!

No bears, gators,wild hogs in the Hoosier state. I do travel, though!

unit1069 · 12-11-2011, 16:02

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Originally Posted by 10-S

I'm an avid bicyclist/jogger. The bike & walking trails in some places have black bear, gator, hogs...etc sharing the same space occasionally. Would the 10mm be a good trail gun with a hunting load, jic?

Sounds like a good choice to me.

Tiro Fijo · 12-11-2011, 17:16

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Originally Posted by interlake869

not sure you need to worry about bears, gators and hogs in indiana...

And THAT is just the single women!! You should see the divorced ones!!

glock20c10mm · 12-11-2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by 10-S

I'm an avid bicyclist/jogger. The bike & walking trails in some places have black bear, gator, hogs...etc sharing the same space occasionally. Would the 10mm be a good trail gun with a hunting load, jic?

Yes Sir.

Zombie Steve · 12-11-2011, 19:51

10mm is the great in-betweener of the handgun world, but I'd say it's a decent compromise for your purposes. A .357 mag would be good (and comparable) for this use if you like a wheel gun better.

Darkangel1846 · 12-11-2011, 20:34

Indiana? I'm in Oregon and I carry a 10mm when I go hikeing...deep woods I switch over to a .44 magnum. DT has some good rounds, BearTooth 200 gr.

***Angry Fist*** · 12-11-2011, 20:37

Hell, I take a 10mm everywhere.

jeager · 12-11-2011, 20:41

My Bro-in-Law was Mtn Biking at Fort Ord, Monterey, Ca.
He was chuggin' up a hill and saw a Mtn LION sneak behind a tree,
...waiting for him to go Bye!

ViennaGambit · 12-11-2011, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Zombie Steve

A .357 mag would be good (and comparable) for this use if you like a wheel gun better.

I totally agree.

.357mag is such a versatile cartridge it is amazing. Good thing with a wheel gun is you can mix up the loads...

I carry the first 2 as shot shells for snakes while hiking here then buffalo bore flat nose for animals, 2 legged and 4.

I would feel comfortable anywhere in the CONUS where there arent brown bears with the 7 shots of .357mag out of the 4" barrel of my 686 plus...

If you only want to carry a semi auto, then 10mm is a great choice, although .45acp would do the trick as well if you dont need to worry about bear...

Ak.Hiker · 12-11-2011, 21:19

I think the 10mm would be a great choice for your needs. I prefer the 200 grain loads.

FLIPPER 348 · 12-11-2011, 23:48

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Originally Posted by 10-S

I'm an avid bicyclist/jogger. The bike & walking trails in some places have black bear, gator, hogs...etc sharing the same space occasionally.

Are you biking/jogging thru a zoo??

alwaysshootin · 12-12-2011, 05:15

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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

Are you biking/jogging thru a zoo??

alwaysshootin · 12-12-2011, 05:16

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Originally Posted by jeager

My Bro-in-Law was Mtn Biking at Fort Ord, Monterey, Ca.
He was chuggin' up a hill and saw a Mtn LION sneak behind a tree,
...waiting for him to go Bye!

Tell me he stopped!

Brucev · 12-12-2011, 06:57

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Originally Posted by 10-S

I'm an avid bicyclist/jogger. The bike & walking trails in some places have black bear, gator, hogs...etc sharing the same space occasionally. Would the 10mm be a good trail gun with a hunting load, jic?

Jogging with a pistol of any real size is a bit of a challenge. Walking... no problem. The 10mm will do fine for the above mentioned needs. A G-20 would be a good choice. For distances up to say 15 yds., it would be very adequate. Shots out beyond say 30 yds., you'll need to really work on accuracy. If you anticipate such shooting as more than occasional, it'd be better to choose as different handgun for the round... say a S&W revolver as it will be capable of much better accuracy.

purrrfect 10 · 12-12-2011, 07:14

I have a S&W 586 357 magnum, I also have a Glock 20 10mm. IMO the Glock 10mm is the only way to go for a trail gun for Black bear and smaller. Lot more capacity more choice for ammo.
My 10 mm is my daily carry. For me it doesn't get any better then 10mm.

All the Way

Taurus851 · 12-12-2011, 11:12

i would probably want something in a magnum round if you are worried about the animals you just mentioned. as previously stated, .357 would be good

**DWARREN123** · 12-12-2011, 12:23

I like it for just about every situation. I carry a G20 for social interactions!

fredj338 · 12-12-2011, 12:52

For me, a trail gun has to be veristle. That just rules out any semiauto, even the mighty 10mm IMO. Ammo sensative, no shot rounds for snakes, not enough horsepower for dangerous game, not enough accuracy past 50yds. Better than a knife or fists, but IMO, real trail guns start w/ the 357mag & go up. Ammo cap means nothing in a trail gun designed to stop a bear. You need horsepower, & that doesn't come in any service caliber.

interlake869 · 12-12-2011, 16:02

im not so sure a hot 10mm round is any less powerful than any 357 round- the only thing a glock in 10mm wont do is shoot bird shot(cci comes to mind for .357).... anyhoo the 10mm is usually a heavier bullet with similar velocites and energy to .357- and you know what they say about carring a gun in a caliber that starts with the #4.... i have my g29 as accurate as any of my other guns i own at the distances they will be used in the bush( <50ft)

Tiro Fijo · 12-12-2011, 16:45

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Originally Posted by fredj338

...IMO, real trail guns start w/ the 357mag & go up. Ammo cap means nothing in a trail gun designed to stop a bear. You need horsepower, & that doesn't come in any service caliber.

Ditto.

Short of having to cull a pack of rabid wolves in knee deep snow I see no benefit to the semi-auto as a trail gun. I honestly think most want a 10mm semi auto not for the power but for another reason. That is that deep down they feel scared to have only six shots and don't trust their capabilitites with a powerful SA revolver.

Ak.Hiker · 12-12-2011, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo

Ditto.

Short of having to cull a pack of rabid wolves in knee deep snow I see no benefit to the semi-auto as a trail gun. I honestly think most want a 10mm semi auto not for the power but for another reason. That is that deep down they feel scared to have only six shots and don't trust their capabilitites with a powerful SA revolver.

Or they want something light and handy that still has enough penetration with non expanding bullets to penetrate a bears skull. There must be a reason why the 10mm is popular in both Montana and Alaska with outdoorsman. I doubt it is they are afraid of their 44 Magnums and 454's. Except for the guy I heard about that borrowed a 454 to finish off a moose, fired it one handed and knocked himself upside the head with it.

fredj338 · 12-12-2011, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Ak.Hiker

Or they want something light and handy that still has enough penetration with non expanding bullets to penetrate a bears skull. There must be a reason why the 10mm is popular in both Montana and Alaska with outdoorsman. I doubt it is they are afraid of their 44 Magnums and 454's. Except for the guy I heard about that borrowed a 454 to finish off a moose, fired it one handed and knocked himself upside the head with it.

That & face it, most guys do not want to put the trigger time in to learn how to shoot a heavy recoiling 41mag, 44mag or 45colt well. So the 10mm is the most powerful gun that can be shot easily by novice to average handgunners. That is probably the majority of outdoor tpye that hike & fish, they are not shooters first. Yes, I would take a 10mm before any other semiauto, but spend a bit of time w/ a 4" magnum & you are better armed against big things that want to hurt you, IMO. Add to that the versitility of the revolver & ammo, there really is no comparison. You can have birdshot, soft bunnyfart loads for taking grouse or rabbits for eating & loads that will go end to end on even a large 400#+ bear.