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12-25-2011, 08:33
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Has anyone ever found your safety disengaged on your 1911?
I don't own one anymore but I had a Springfield Loaded at one time and used to carry it constantly. Even sitting with it in my car.
I remember one day going to the bathroom and then looking down and noticing the safety on that double sided version Springfield has disengaged!!!!
I about flipped!!!
That's not the reason I sold that gun. And one day I'll buy another 1911.
Has that ever happened to you? And what was the situation?
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12-25-2011, 08:48
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No.......
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12-25-2011, 08:50
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Seems to be a rather common issue with the ambi-safety feature.
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12-25-2011, 09:29
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So long as you have a good quality holster and keep your finger off the trigger if the safety did happen to go down it wouldn't be a big deal
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12-25-2011, 09:30
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When I make a 1911 holster I mold the body shield around the safety lever which makes it very difficult to disengage the safety while the gun is holstered.
Of course, this only works on a right handed holster, or a lefty with the ambi.
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12-25-2011, 09:34
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I had it happen once with an extended safety on a carry 1911. I removed the safety and replaced it with a standard safety. No issues since then. That was probably overkill, but I don't care about extended safeties anyhow - no loss of function for me.
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12-25-2011, 09:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JK-linux
I had it happen once with an extended safety on a carry 1911. I removed the safety and replaced it with a standard safety. No issues since then. That was probably overkill, but I don't care about extended safeties anyhow - no loss of function for me.
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Darn good post........
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12-25-2011, 09:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
Seems to be a rather common issue with the ambi-safety feature.
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Ditto. That's just one of the reasons that I don't like ambi's. I have a buddy who had 2 of his carry 1911's, that both had ambi's, have this happen to him several times. He finally saw the light and has since swapped all of his ambi's for single sides. Even on the 1911's that he doesn't carry.
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12-25-2011, 10:10
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Carrying a 1911 requires more planning and preparation than many other designs. I think it's worth it, but the fact remains.
One of the things that needs to be carefully considered is the holster. Some hang up when carrying a 1911 with front cocking serrations. Some won't work with ambi safeties or extended safeties. I match my holsters to my 1911's, and don't have problems. I have never had my safety unintentionally released on a ccw 1911.
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12-25-2011, 10:15
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For the record this happened to me in a Versa Max II. I believe it got disengaged while driving or getting in and out of my car but who knows for sure.
Last edited by jjboogie; 12-25-2011 at 10:15..
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12-25-2011, 10:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr
Seems to be a rather common issue with the ambi-safety feature.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JK-linux
I had it happen once with an extended safety on a carry 1911. I removed the safety and replaced it with a standard safety. No issues since then. That was probably overkill, but I don't care about extended safeties anyhow - no loss of function for me.
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Agree with both above.
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12-25-2011, 11:02
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I'm a lefty, therefore, I have ambis on all of my 1911s. I've been carrying 1911s on a daily basis for the pass 2+ years now. That may not be a long time, compare to some of you, but I've only had it disengaged ONCE.
Some people are also forgetting that there are TWO additional safeties; grip and trigger. So if you don't have both TS and GS disengaged, AND your finger on the trigger, then it won't go bang.
Most importantly, how that TS detent is dressed to engage with the plunger spring is also very important on having a positive lock up on the TS. A good smith can shape that TS detent engagement for a very tight lock up w/o being a pain to engage the TS.
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12-25-2011, 11:05
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I don't (& wouldn't) carry a 1911, but I have handled many that had a safety that was mushy & way too easy to move, so I could see where it would be a problem.
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12-25-2011, 11:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AA#5
I don't (& wouldn't) carry a 1911, but...
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Nothing after this part of the sentence really matters does it?
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12-25-2011, 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knedrgr
Some people are also forgetting that there are TWO additional safeties; grip and trigger. So if you don't have both TS and GS disengaged, AND your finger on the trigger, then it won't go bang.
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Not sure what you are refering to as a Trigger Safety on a 1911.
Is that on a series 80 style that you are refering to?
I consider that a drop safety more than anything else.
Press the trigger on a series 80 or a series 70 and it will shoot as long as the grip safety is engaged, and of course the thumb safety is off.
I think of a trigger safety as that which Glock has on their triggers.
The series 80 is a firing pin block, and that is for drop protection.
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12-25-2011, 11:37
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Yes, it's happened to me. Probably due to the seatbelt and those damn ambi safeties.
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12-25-2011, 12:10
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What you're thinking about carrying instead? Revolver?
In terms of accidental trigger pull the 1911 with disengaged safety is safer than say Glock in my book. A lot of people are comfortable carrying Glocks and such.
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12-25-2011, 14:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim S.
Not sure what you are refering to as a Trigger Safety on a 1911.
Is that on a series 80 style that you are refering to?
I consider that a drop safety more than anything else.
Press the trigger on a series 80 or a series 70 and it will shoot as long as the grip safety is engaged, and of course the thumb safety is off.
I think of a trigger safety as that which Glock has on their triggers.
The series 80 is a firing pin block, and that is for drop protection.
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My reference has to do with te general safety of keeping your finger off the trigger, until you're about to punch paper or take out a treat.
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12-25-2011, 14:21
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Yep, and as others have noted it was an ambi safety. I now only have standard non-extended on my Colts and have NEVER found it disengaged.
Last edited by weisse52; 12-25-2011 at 14:21..
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12-25-2011, 17:10
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I'm LH/ambi and conscious of it happening.
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12-25-2011, 17:42
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It's never happened to me, but the only gun I have with an ambi safety is a Kimber Gold Match. I don't carry that. None of the others have the ambi safety.
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12-26-2011, 03:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by okie
So long as you have a good quality holster and keep your finger off the trigger if the safety did happen to go down it wouldn't be a big deal 
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This.
The thumb safety doesn't block the hammer. It only blocks the sear. As long as the pistol is holstered, the grip safety still blocks the trigger, and the half-cock is still in play.
The reason for the thumb safety wasn't for cocked and locked carry. It was for reholstering...short-term...so that a mounted cavalryman could free up both hands and regain control of a frightened, unruly horse.
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Last edited by 1911Tuner; 12-26-2011 at 03:56..
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12-26-2011, 04:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knedrgr
My reference has to do with te general safety of keeping your finger off the trigger, until you're about to punch paper or take out a treat.
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good one
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12-26-2011, 08:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knedrgr
My reference has to do with the general safety of keeping your finger off the trigger, until you're about to punch paper or take out a threat.
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That is the most important safety device on a gun.
Too bad so many people do not practice this.
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12-26-2011, 08:26
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I carried a 1911 mexican style for years and never had my safety come off.
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