So, whats the word on the 2011 Sigs?

collim1 · 12-29-2011, 05:56

Big Sig fan here, but am disappointed to see it appears the Sig classic line guns all only ship with the E2 grip and new extractor design.

Not much mention of it on Sig Forum.

Anyone know if this is permanent? I do not care for the looks of it all.

Also I heard that the new P229's do not fit in the existing Safarliand duty holsters, which is a big problem as my agency will be in the market for new duty guns in the next year.

Can the E2 grips be replaced with the standard two piece grips with screws? Is the extractor reliable? Are they not going to offer the old style P series anymore?

s&wfan · 12-29-2011, 07:19

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Originally Posted by collim1

Big Sig fan here, but am disappointed to see it appears the Sig classic line guns all only ship with the E2 grip and new extractor design.

Not much mention of it on Sig Forum.

Anyone know if this is permanent? I do not care for the looks of it all.

Also I heard that the new P229's do not fit in the existing Safarliand duty holsters, which is a big problem as my agency will be in the market for new duty guns in the next year.

Can the E2 grips be replaced with the standard two piece grips with screws? Is the extractor reliable? Are they not going to offer the old style P series anymore?

There should be plenty of old style P series guns out there for you to stock up on, if that's what you like. I'm not sure if it's for good or not. Never held an E2. What do you not like about them?

3rdgen40 · 12-29-2011, 07:24

I haven't handled one yet, but they do look a bit funky to me.What is different with the extractor?

jwhite75 · 12-29-2011, 07:28

They should be able to be switched out grip wise...as the old grips can be switched for the new. I do like the feel of the E2 grips but they are too abrasive, and I carry primarily IWB. Sig has been doing some weird stuff lately. I dont like the direction they are taking.

I love my P228.

collim1 · 12-29-2011, 08:54

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Originally Posted by s&wfan

There should be plenty of old style P series guns out there for you to stock up on, if that's what you like. I'm not sure if it's for good or not. Never held an E2. What do you not like about them?

Not worried about me personally. I work for an agency that needs to purchase 150+ guns. It will be a no go if they also have to replace everyones Safariland holsters.

If they hoslters have to be replaced as well they may very well choose to buy a cheaper gun to make up the difference.

I am quite fond of my duty gun, and my dept mandates that all officers carry the same gun (er....guns) either a P226 or P229.

As far as the looks go, I just dont adjust well to change I guess.

You carry a gun on duty for so many years and you get used to it. I have carried this weapon for 98% of my carreer.

My off-duty carry gun is a P239 that I chose just because it was very similar to my duty weapon.

crazymoose · 12-29-2011, 12:02

I agree, the grips mess with me when I look at the new SIGs. The beefy top end of the gun just looks weird with the tiny little grip. I will say that I thought the old SIGs were about the nicest looking modern pistols, and now they're some of the worst.

fowler · 12-29-2011, 12:11

The standard grips fit my med-large hands fine. E2 does nothing the standard can,t for me.If I had small hands maybe the E2 would be right.

cyberiad · 12-29-2011, 18:56

I don't work for Sig but you should talk to their LE sales group. They ought to be able to sell you 150 P229s with the standard non-E2 grip and tell you whether they will fit existing holsters. I don't see why they wouldn't fit current holsters since, as far as I know, the frame has not changed.

I don't have a Sig with an external extractor but it should be reliable and easier to remove and replace if necessary.

cowboy1964 · 12-29-2011, 19:05

I agree the 226 looks strange with the E2 grip. The 229 looks much better.

Either way though there are plenty of other uglier guns out there.

WarEagle32 · 12-30-2011, 00:07

I love my 229 E2 9mm. Different people are going to have different opinions. Ford, dodge chevy etc. I love the aggressively abrasive E2 grip and wish it was even rougher so that my hands can stay that much more stable to help my performance. I've heard some people mad at Sig for changing certain things, but I'm not. I have bought three new Sigs this past year and a 226 E2 is on my list right now! I love their 290 which has became my go to pocket pistol and I also love my Sig 1911 GSR having no mim parts is a real tack driver!

NEOH212 · 12-30-2011, 03:44

Although I like the way the E2 grip feels, I'll stick with the old grips. They fit me just find and I'll withhold my opinion on the new extractor design until more testing is done to see how it holds up.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that since Sig changed the design of the 226 and 229 slides, the old sight tool won't work on the new slides?

**NeverMore1701** · 12-30-2011, 03:46

My 238 has been 100%, but it's not what you're asking about.

collim1 · 12-30-2011, 04:50

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Originally Posted by NEOH212

Although I like the way the E2 grip feels, I'll stick with the old grips. They fit me just find and I'll withhold my opinion on the new extractor design until more testing is done to see how it holds up.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that since Sig changed the design of the 226 and 229 slides, the old sight tool won't work on the new slides?

Sight tool does not work and some are saying LE duty retention holsters will not fit the newer Sigs.

Chonny · 12-30-2011, 11:32

The P229 9mm now accepts 15 round factory mags.

WarEagle32 · 12-30-2011, 23:44

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The P229 9mm now accepts 15 round factory mags.

Yes it does, and 15+1 sure is sweet in that platform. I honestly didn't think there was a chance in hell of any gun even come close to challenging my Glock 19 as my EDC pistol. However, I have been spending a lot of time shooting the two guns back to back over and over along with a ton of side by side dry firing and the Sig 229 9mm E2 is really giving my beloved G19 a run for it's money! Both are fine guns but the Sig has a bit better grip. Although I really don't know if any gun will take the place of my 19!

**Gregg702** · 12-30-2011, 23:50

I saw a P239 Rainbow at my LGS today. It made me sad.

RedSoxMD · 07-17-2012, 12:43

I think Sig should make all of their 9mm p series guns w the old slides. Leave the stainless for the larger calibers. BTW, I love my E2 grip, but I have small hands

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WarEagle32 · 07-17-2012, 16:44

I think the E2 is the best thing about Sigs now. JMO

El_Ron1 · 07-17-2012, 18:48

2001 maybe... 1991, 1981, 1975... yes. 2011...

bac1023 · 07-17-2012, 20:11

I don't like any of the new Sigs built in the USA.

**Diesel McBadass** · 07-17-2012, 20:34

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Originally Posted by bac1023

I don't like any of the new Sigs built in the USA.

Any reason? Im not a big sig guy but fired hundreds of rounds in exeter guns and never had a jam, even in rusted mags we constantly pitch in the dirt.

collim1 · 07-18-2012, 06:39

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Originally Posted by Diesel McBadass

Any reason? Im not a big sig guy but fired hundreds of rounds in exeter guns and never had a jam, even in rusted mags we constantly pitch in the dirt.

My three Exeter Sigs are all great, never had a problem with them.

SigFTW · 07-18-2012, 07:02

The US Sig's are fine (IMO). I have both German and US and they are both top quality and very reliable.

But I do favor my 1994 P229 non rail German Sig, the trigger has yet to be duplicated with my other Sigs out of the box. Maybe because it has a lot more rounds than the others.

**Diesel McBadass** · 07-18-2012, 07:06

Sigs ergonomically do not work for me but they are rock solid.

dnuggett · 07-18-2012, 10:09

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Originally Posted by collim1

My three Exeter Sigs are all great, never had a problem with them.

Same here, after thousands of rounds.